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Old 12-04-2013, 10:48 AM
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Downtown MPLS offers everything that one would expect from a "major" downtown area, including nightlife and dining options, food trucks, farmers markets, public plazas, green space, and local shops / boutiques.
I'd expect something closer to a smaller version of downtown Boston or Philly in a major downtown area. And yes, thanks for explaining Skywalk, I didn't realize all the stores were above.

Some American downtowns are just mediocre, I don't see much point in using them as a comparison point, especially since the thread title is "top 10 american downtowns".
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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That is great for Newark, sounds like construction starts in 2015.

Detroit does not have a downtown Whole Foods, it is in Midtown. I'm not super familiar with Detroit, but I believe that is within the city's core, but not its downtown core. Still pretty great for Detroit to get a Whole Foods deep within city limits.

My point is that you are saying things that are half-truths.
C-D can really suck sometimes, with all the inane responses.

Yes, there is a Whole Foods in downtown Detroit. Midtown is just a neighborhood name. Downtown means "city center" in the U.S. parlance.

It's like saying "Aha, there is no Whole Foods in downtown NYC, because the WF located in "downtown" are more commonly referred to as "Tribeca, LES, Chelsea, Midtown, UES, Union Square, Lincoln Square, etc."

And there is a WF coming to Newark. So sorry, no half-truths.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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Yes there is a downtown Detroit WF, unless it closed in the last few months. I have driven right past.


There is a WF being built in downtown Miami, and a WF in the Garden District in NO.

And I don't understand the obsession with WF. The claim was that most cities don't have grocery stores in their core districts.

I just brought up WF to illustrate that even an upscale grocery often has locations in downtrodden cities, so it's probably true that thriving cities are extremely likely to have grocery stores (whether WF or whatever).
You, like many others didn't get my point that downtown Minneapolis HAS OPTIONS that most other downtown residents, workers, and visitors don't have, including grocery stores - a Lunds and a Whole Foods. Someone chose to jump on me because I mentioned Whole Foods and it's become of an obsession for those who entered the conversation late.

There is a difference between being built and having one. Also, when did the Garden District become part of downtown New Orleans?
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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You, like many others didn't get my point that downtown Minneapolis HAS OPTIONS that most other cities don't have, including grocery stores - a Lunds and a Whole Foods. Someone chose to jump on me because I mentioned Whole Foods and it's become of an obsession for those who entered the conversation late.
But my point is that if Detroit, which is certainly NOT a Top 10 downtown, has grocery options, don't you think it's likely that more prosperous downtowns than Detroit also have grocery options?

I don't think it's rare for city centers to have grocery stores nowadays. I think it would be rare for city centers to not have grocery store options.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:56 AM
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That is great for Newark, sounds like construction starts in 2015.

Detroit does not have a downtown Whole Foods, it is in Midtown. I'm not super familiar with Detroit, but I believe that is within the city's core, but not its downtown core. Still pretty great for Detroit to get a Whole Foods deep within city limits.

My point is that you are saying things that are half-truths.
What's the big difference if it's in downtown or midtown? Still parts of the city center?
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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C-D can really suck sometimes, with all the inane responses.

Yes, there is a Whole Foods in downtown Detroit. Midtown is just a neighborhood name. Downtown means "city center" in the U.S. parlance.

It's like saying "Aha, there is no Whole Foods in downtown NYC, because the WF located in "downtown" are more commonly referred to as "Tribeca, LES, Chelsea, Midtown, UES, Union Square, Lincoln Square, etc."

And there is a WF coming to Newark. So sorry, no half-truths.
I don't think my response was inane. I called you out because Newark does not have a Whole Foods downtown, it is getting one in like 2 or 3 years. I guess I can start saying Los Angeles has a Whole Foods then, yeah?

I am pretty sure that Midtown is not just a neighborhood of downtown Detroit: Fileetroitareamap2.gif - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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What's the big difference if it's in downtown or midtown? Still parts of the city center?
If that's the case, then couldn't a part of Uptown Minneapolis be considered as city center?
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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What's the big difference if it's in downtown or midtown? Still parts of the city center?
I agree, it is pretty great for Detroit to get something like that in the core.

It just seems like in downtown discussion threads that people want to stick to pretty defined downtown areas.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:03 AM
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I am pretty sure that Midtown is not just a neighborhood of downtown Detroit: Fileetroitareamap2.gif - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
True, but is there a functional difference in having a Whole Foods in midtown rather than downtown if they're both the city core?
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:04 AM
 
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True, but is there a functional difference in having a Whole Foods in midtown rather than downtown if they're both the city core?
Nope. In real life this has no bearing on the citizens of Detroit, they're like a mile apart.

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