What City has the absolute best looking "ghetto"? (map, crime rate)
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You can definitely tell you're in the ghetto when you're in Sunnydale. Maybe polo89 was thinking of the non-project single-family home parts of sunnydale/visitacion valley. Those areas look pretty nice and quiet, much like your typical working/middle class area in SF, though maybe slightly more gritty than average.
You can definitely tell you're in the ghetto when you're in Sunnydale. Maybe polo89 was thinking of the non-project single-family home parts of sunnydale/visitacion valley. Those areas look pretty nice and quiet, much like your typical working/middle class area in SF, though maybe slightly more gritty than average.
Or maybe he was thinking of the newly remodeled Towerside and mixed it up with Sunnydale.
Good point, Towerside does look pretty nice despite being projects, and it is just a couple blocks away from Sunnydale, so someone unfamiliar with the area could confuse them I guess. At a glance it's hard to believe that that's the former site of the infamous Geneva Towers (hence the name Towerside for those who don't know), and that a lot of the same bad stuff still goes down...though it is a lot better than it used to be.
Good point, Towerside does look pretty nice despite being projects, and it is just a couple blocks away from Sunnydale, so someone unfamiliar with the area could confuse them I guess. At a glance it's hard to believe that that's the former site of the infamous Geneva Towers (hence the name Towerside for those who don't know), and that a lot of the same bad stuff still goes down...though it is a lot better than it used to be.
It also helps that Towerside is more integrated into the surrounding area than Sunnydale is... the fact that you have the park on the Garrison Ave side of Towerside that people in the surrounding area use makes it feel a little more community-like than Sunnydale. Unfortunately neither Towerside nor Sunnydale are markedly safer than the other though thanks to them warring with each other. I personally don't get the dumb SF trend of people in the same neighborhood going to war with each other (i.e. Downtown vs. Uptown, Big Block vs. West Mob, Sunnydale vs. Towerside, etc). We're literally talking about people who live a block away from each other and go to the same schools, attend the same churches, shop at the same plazas, etc. Coming from someone who spent a lot of time in the "Killing Fields" of Oakland, I'll say that in no way shape or form have I ever seen the complete disregard and devaluing of community in Oakland that is an every day reality in the equivalent areas of San Francisco.
At the end of the day, you can't really grasp how "bad" a neighborhood might be by looking at a Google map streetview. A lot of neighborhoods that look very dirty and neglected in real life look much more livable through the sun-glared lens of a mid-morning Google map photograph.
For example, look at Lansdowne in Baltimore County, Maryland on the streetview. I am very familiar with this area and it does not look like this in the afternoon or evening. There are hardly any cars on the street because it is obvious that the majority of people in this neighborhood are working class folks with jobs. However, these jobs most people in this neighborhood have are not good jobs as the median household income in the town is only about 40K a year:
Doesn't look that bad from streetview right? This is completely inaccurate because the signs of neglect in this neighborhood are glaringly obvious if you see it with your naked eyes. Streeview doesn't capture the cutty corners of any ghetto neighborhood. Because of this, you won't see the overgrown grass and mounds of trash in the parking lots and alley ways. The fuzzy Google map photos also don't do a good job capturing the run-down look of these homes.
From looking at this streetview, you wouldn't be able to tell that you are nine times more likely to be murdered in this neighborhood than a town with a murder rate that matches the national average. You are also five times more likely to be robbed here than in a town with an average crime rate. The crime rate for every type of crime (except rape which is only slightly higher than the national average) is exponentially higher than the national average:
The Google map streetview mobile rolls through the hood at ten o'clock in the morning for a reason. However, this neighborhood is different than many neighborhoods in Baltimore city, proper, as hundreds of people do not loiter outside at all hours of the day and night here. Most violence in this neighborhood is between folks who know each other like anywhere else. But it would not be safe to walk through this neighborhood alone at night, or maybe even during the day, if you don't know anyone.
Last edited by LunaticVillage; 10-09-2012 at 10:56 PM..
Huntspoint, unlike Lakeview and Sunnydale, actually LOOKS like a ghetto, and looks impoverished. But damn, is that a nice view they got there in the Huntspoint projects. So beautiful, no matter how dangerous and ghetto the area is.
You've never been to Sunnydale so stop right there. Sunnydale does not look nice. Does this look nice to you?
Yeah, those photos show the difference between the ghetto and the slums.
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Sunnydale does not look nice. Does this look nice to you? 
