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View Poll Results: New York City vs San Francisco
New York 310 56.36%
San Francisco 240 43.64%
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
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Wow, your results have a picture from 1958!! That proves everything lol!!
This!

Never mind the fact that the third picture isn't even in New York lol! Also saw several pictures from New Year's Eve or right after the ball drops (meanwhile the next day is immaculate). While New York isn't the cleanest big city (many say Chicago hold that title) it's not as bad as SF. Market Street was a total mess and so many homeless people were Downtown and in the train stations, especially during the day.

New York on the other hand is constantly improving in this department.
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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And NYC doesn't use bins? Lol it's the exact same thing. This is a point where neither city can boast. Both throw their garbage into the street. This is a moot discussion, imo. Stick with per capita wealth and nature for better arguments.

Why is San Francisco So Dirty? - Reset San Francisco
Not at all. Bins are orderly and better contain the trash. Piles of trash bags aren't really and can easily tear, rip, or have rats gnaw into to them. I'm doubt many people would prefer NYC's system of trash bags on the street. I'm not sure there is another city in America that even does that anymore.

Also great link you have there, it's about a survey that shows people ranking NYC the dirtiest city America! Lol.

I never said anything in this thread about nature or wealth so not sure what you're even talking about.
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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Not at all. Bins are orderly and better contain the trash. Piles of trash bags aren't really and can easily tear, rip, or have rats gnaw into to them. I'm doubt many people would prefer NYC's system of trash bags on the street. I'm not sure there is another city in America that even does that anymore.

Also great link you have there, it's about a survey that shows people ranking NYC the dirtiest city America! Lol.

I never said anything in this thread about nature or wealth so not sure what you're even talking about.
They do use bins in NYC--quit the hyperbole. I'm sure they throw bags on the street in Chinatown--it's not a uniquely NYC problem. As far as dirtiest, it's a toss up. Some lists have NYC dirtier, others with the Bay in front. Neither is a bastion of cleanliness, which is my point.

San Jose, Calif - In Photos: America's 20 Dirtiest Cities - Forbes

As far as nature and wealth, those are the Bay's strong suits in this thread. Anything else is pretty much in NYCs favor.
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:29 PM
 
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I'm doubt many people would prefer NYC's system of trash bags on the street. I'm not sure there is another city in America that even does that anymore.
There is no such "system". You're just making stuff up.

What city doesn't use trash bags to store garbage? Do the crack-addicted bums in SF all dutifully recycle everything, so no need for regular garbage bags?
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:37 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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They do use bins in NYC--quit the hyperbole. I'm sure they throw bags on the street in Chinatown--it's not a uniquely NYC problem. As far as dirtiest, it's a toss up. Some lists have NYC dirtier, others with the Bay in front. Neither is a bastion of cleanliness, which is my point.

San Jose, Calif - In Photos: America's 20 Dirtiest Cities - Forbes

As far as nature and wealth, those are the Bay's strong suits in this thread. Anything else is pretty much in NYCs favor.
Is it just or mostly Manhattan that throws their trash in bags on the street then? I didn't really notice any bins and it seemed like all trash bags piled on the street.

Again I never said anything about nature and wealth so I don't get why you keep brining that up to me.
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:41 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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There is no such "system". You're just making stuff up.

What city doesn't use trash bags to store garbage? Do the crack-addicted bums in SF all dutifully recycle everything, so no need for regular garbage bags?
Then what exactly do you call it? Seems like in Manhattan at least that is how most places dispose of their trash, by throwing bags in the street.

Like I said most cities use bins. What does your city pick up trash in exactly?

Actually SF has a pretty good waste management system and a pretty high recycling and composting rate.
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:41 PM
 
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Is it just or mostly Manhattan that throws their trash in bags on the street then?
There is nowhere in NYC that "throws their trash in bags on the street." That would be illegal and pointless, and you would get a big fine from the city.

Obviously when garbage is picked up, the garbage has to be out, but that's the same in every city on earth. How does a garbage truck pick up garbage if it isn't available for pickup?
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:46 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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There is nowhere in NYC that "throws their trash in bags on the street." That would be illegal and pointless, and you would get a big fine from the city.

Obviously when garbage is picked up, the garbage has to be out, but that's the same in every city on earth. How does a garbage truck pick up garbage if it isn't available for pickup?
You seemed to be confused by semantics so I'll try again. Is it mostly Manhattan that instead of using your typical trash/recycling bin for trash pick up use plastic garbage bags that are placed on the street instead?


Also what does your trash get picked up in your city in? A bag or a bin?
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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Is it just or mostly Manhattan that throws their trash in bags on the street then? I didn't really notice any bins and it seemed like all trash bags piled on the street.

Again I never said anything about nature and wealth so I don't get why you keep brining that up to me.
The bags only pile up on the SIDEWALK when the bins are full--same as in SF and any other city. There is no 'system' in place.

I keep bringing up nature and wealth, because those are the only two areas where SF has an objective lead on NYC. And wealth isn't as clear cut (NYC s wealthiest are wealthier than SFs wealthiest). So to argue over trash, when both cities suck, isn't doing this argument (NYC vs SF) any favors. Both cities are filthy, with their fair share of homeless. Whether one city 'wins' is pretty irrelevant in this regard.
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:49 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The bags only pile up on the SIDEWALK when the bins are full--same as in SF and any other city. There is no 'system' in place.

I keep bringing up nature and wealth, because those are the only two areas where SF has an objective lead on NYC. And wealth isn't as clear cut (NYC s wealthiest are wealthier than SFs wealthiest). So to argue over trash, when both cities suck, isn't doing this argument (NYC vs SF) any favors. Both cities are filthy, with their fair share of homeless. Whether one city 'wins' is pretty irrelevant in this regard.
Weird, I don't recall seeing any bins. It looked like just bags on the sidewalk with no bins around.

That's nice, I don't care and weren't talking about those things.
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