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View Poll Results: New York City vs San Francisco
New York 310 56.36%
San Francisco 240 43.64%
Voters: 550. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-10-2014, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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Too late, youve been owned yet again.

California is a massive state, fyi.

SoCal Pop 23,000,000 $1.2 Trillion GDP
NorCal Pop 15,000,000 $800 Billion GDP

So to say that SF isnt even 1st in its own state really is silly because 2nd in CA is still bigger than 1st in all but 2-3 other states, so yeah.

Nice try.
NYC metro GDP $1.47 Trillion GDP

Again, you keep grasping. NYC's metro GDP is individually bigger than SoCal's GDP, and is individually bigger than NorCal's GDP. There is no California metro that has an answer to NYC. And yes, California is a massive state. Guess what? If the east had a state of an equivalent size, we'd have a larger economy, too (BosWash). Again, quit trying to turn this into a Cali-BosWash thread (with your numerous mentions of Philly). This is SF/The Bay vs NYC.

And it's not silly because if first in CA isn't bigger than NYC, why should we bother about second? You just keep lending credence to the fact that SF isn't the biggest and baddest in its own state--because it isn't. And you want to keep going up against NYC? Lol you keep owning yourself. What's going to be brought up next, San Diego? NYC > SF in most objective measures. SF has a few where it's on top, but for the most part, it's a slaughter.

No hard feelings caught. You're just getting thoroughly trounced on here and fail to see how SF doesn't compete with NYC. A more apt analogy would be a 20-carat diamond vs a 5-carat diamond.
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Old 12-10-2014, 05:05 AM
 
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Queens is the top US travel destination for next year.

Lonely Planet's best U.S. spots for 2015 - CNN.com
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Old 12-10-2014, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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NYC metro GDP $1.47 Trillion GDP

Again, you keep grasping. NYC's metro GDP is individually bigger than SoCal's GDP, and is individually bigger than NorCal's GDP. There is no California metro that has an answer to NYC. And yes, California is a massive state. Guess what? If the east had a state of an equivalent size, we'd have a larger economy, too (BosWash). Again, quit trying to turn this into a Cali-BosWash thread (with your numerous mentions of Philly). This is SF/The Bay vs NYC.
yawns@the backtracking.

You said SF isnt even first in its own state implying therefore that it cant compare to other cities that are first in their own.state, but obviously that's total BS because SF is the 3rd absolute financial center in the world according to GAWC, the 5th financial center in the world according to GFC, the global leader in Venture Capitall,

Furthermore,

BOTH OF CALIFORNIA'S 2 PRINCIPAL CITIES RANK AMONG THE 10 MOST POWERFUL CITY BRANDS ON EARTH.

Top 10
1 Los Angeles
2 New York
3 London
4 Paris
5 Seoul
6 Barcelona
7 Rio de Janeiro
8 San Francisco
9 Las Vegas
10 Dubai

The world cities with the most powerful brands - get the data | Cities | The Guardian

In fact, as you can see^, the Western US is home to 3 of the 10 most visible cities in the world conciousness at this time. NYC is the only Eastern city in the whole of North America to make the top 10.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...aromet-013.jpg
So yeah...

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Old 12-10-2014, 07:52 AM
 
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Laughs at the dodging, sidetracking and evasive maneuvers you keep pulling.

Influence > branding No. 2: New York - In Photos: The World

I never implied that SF can't compare to other primate cities--I only pointed out that it isn't even the primate city in its own state.

Furthermore, this is SF versus NYC--not NYC versus the Pacific Rim, BosWash versus Cali, LA and SF vs NYC, etc. I, along with other posters, are only pointing out ad nauseum through numerous statistics, polls, Youtube videos, you name it, that SF cannot compete directly with NYC...because you know, it can't. Every infographic and link you post just reasserts NYC's superiority to SF. They all have NYC at a superior position. Instead, you try to shift the conversation to SF boxing above its weight or try to denigrate the East Coast. It just makes you look petty and delusional. Just give it up.
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Old 12-10-2014, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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If you live by GaWC rankings, then you must die by them as well.

The GaWC inventory of world cities
[LEFT]
Cities are ordered in terms of world city-ness with values ranging from 1- 12


A. ALPHA WORLD CITIES

12: London, Paris, New York, Tokyo

10: Chicago, Frankfurt, Hong Kong, Los Angeles, Milan, Singapore


B. BETA WORLD CITIES

9: San Francisco, Sydney, Toronto, Zurich

8: Brussels, Madrid, Mexico City, Sao Paulo

7: Moscow, Seoul


C. GAMMA WORLD CITIES

6: Amsterdam, Boston, Caracas, Dallas, Dusseldorf, Geneva, Houston, Jakarta, Johannesburg, Melbourne, Osaka, Prague, Santiago, Taipei, Washington

5: Bangkok, Beijing, Montreal, Rome, Stockholm, Warsaw

4: Atlanta, Barcelona, Berlin, Buenos Aires, Budapest, Copenhagen, Hamburg, Istanbul, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, Miami, Minneapolis, Munich, Shanghai

GaWC Research Bulletin 5
[/LEFT]
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Old 12-10-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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^^Beat me to it.
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Old 12-10-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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And if you care about the super fantabulously wealthy, then the Knight Frank Report is nothing to disregard.

The Knight Frank Global Cities Survey keeps track of which cities are of most importance to the world’s wealthiest people. It ranks cities based on four factors: Economic Activity, Quality of Life, Knowledge & Influence and Political Power, as well as taking into account the number of UHNWIs who call each city home.

2014 Rankings

1. London
2. New York
3. Singapore
4. Hong Kong
5. Geneva
6. Shanghai
7. Miami
8. Dubai
9. Beijing
10. Paris

Oh my. San Francisco didn't even make the list.

Global Cities | The Wealth Report 2014
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Old 12-10-2014, 08:04 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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yawns@the backtracking.

You said SF isnt even first in its own state implying therefore that it cant compare to other cities that are first in their own.state,
How did you come to this conclusion? This is a pretty amazing stretch here.
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Old 12-10-2014, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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If you live by GaWC rankings, then you must die by them as well.

The GaWC inventory of world cities
[LEFT]
Cities are ordered in terms of world city-ness with values ranging from 1- 12


A. ALPHA WORLD CITIES

12: London, Paris, New York, Tokyo

10: Chicago, Frankfurt, Hong Kong, Los Angeles, Milan, Singapore


B. BETA WORLD CITIES

9: San Francisco, Sydney, Toronto, Zurich

8: Brussels, Madrid, Mexico City, Sao Paulo

7: Moscow, Seoul


C. GAMMA WORLD CITIES

6: Amsterdam, Boston, Caracas, Dallas, Dusseldorf, Geneva, Houston, Jakarta, Johannesburg, Melbourne, Osaka, Prague, Santiago, Taipei, Washington

5: Bangkok, Beijing, Montreal, Rome, Stockholm, Warsaw

4: Atlanta, Barcelona, Berlin, Buenos Aires, Budapest, Copenhagen, Hamburg, Istanbul, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, Miami, Minneapolis, Munich, Shanghai

GaWC Research Bulletin 5
[/LEFT]
Oh dear. That's not the current one.

Here's their current scores:
New York A++
San Francisco A-

Ask me if I feel bad for scoring an A- when it comes to satellite office locations of a few financial services locations?

lmfao

Next.
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Old 12-10-2014, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Oh dear. That's not the current one.

Here's their current scores:
New York A++
San Francisco A-

Ask me if I feel bad for scoring an A- when it comes to satellite office locations of a few financial services locations?

lmfao

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That's right. You mean the new rankings where San Francisco is placed in the same bracket with Atlanta, Warsaw and New Delhi? That's the same report that puts New York and London into their own separate bracket above everyone else, right?

GaWC - The World According to GaWC 2012
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