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Old 06-07-2014, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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This says the daytime population of Atlanta is 670,000. You proved my point when I said the daytime population was not over 700,000. Even with tourists included Atlanta MAY have 800,000 day time population. Still nowhere close to Philadelphia's population.

How is Philly not a few notches higher? I'm not saying MSA as a whole, just city level. Even as an MSA Philly has a higher population, is overall wealthier, and has a higher GDP therefore produces more for this country. So explain to me how in any rational way, is Atlanta on the same or higher tier than Philly? Those rankings are garbage and always discredit the sheer size and power of Philly. ALWAYS.
So, my phone somehow logged me in under my old account. It auto-remembered my password, I still do not know it. Strange.

You are missing my point. My point is simply that having a metro that is highly contingent and branded by a city has a positive impact on the city, even if not even 10% of the population lives within the city limits. Of course, there are advantages in having a higher residence, but density isn't everything and does not possess the monopoly of what it is that makes a city desirable.

Philly is much more dense than Atlanta, but given the fact of the metro-pop that makes growth in town possible, they rank about even as far importance. Those studies aren't complete hogwash, Atlanta is a recently-born global city.
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Old 06-07-2014, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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So, my phone somehow logged me in under my old account. It auto-remembered my password, I still do not know it. Strange.

You are missing my point. My point is simply that having a metro that is highly contingent and branded by a city has a positive impact on the city, even if not even 10% of the population lives within the city limits. Of course, there are advantages in having a higher residence, but density isn't everything and does not possess the monopoly of what it is that makes a city desirable.

Philly is much more dense than Atlanta, but given the fact of the metro-pop that makes growth in town possible, they rank about even as far importance. Those studies aren't complete hogwash, Atlanta is a recently-born global city.
Exactly!
Philly enjoys a higher GDP soley because of its port.

But as an important base fro corporations that provide jobs globably,Atlanta stands way out above many cities.
I think this is a major reason for Atlanta's rankings as high as it does.
Connectivelty to the world markets is very imortant and Atlanta does extremely well on this front.
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:56 AM
 
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10 fold is an exaggeration and really not that hard to find descent schools in Atlanta regardless of how the schools are overall better in the metro.

Even so,this might explain why the city of Philly is not growing even faster due to poor schools.

It hampers Atlanta also but the schools in the city are not as dire as they are in Philly(city).
Not all Philly public schools are bad. Not at all. That's the irony of it.

There are Philly public high schools that consistently get top academic honors year after year. Masterman, Central, High School for the Performing Arts.

Catholic Schools and private schools are part of the city mix too. Those are all viable options if one can afford them.

I didn't read the article because I live in Philadelphia and that means we are confronted with the news of "bad schools" quite a lot. However, the growth of charter schools in Philly is a huge part of the financial difficulties with the public schools. Plus the Commonwealth of PA's legislature is controlled by Philadelphia-hating politicians so proper state funding has been a struggle. And the very group, the School Reform Commission, that has been assigned to "fix" the problem is also controlled by the state. We do not have local control of public schools in Philadelphia.

It's a very complex problem. Solutions? We have to have one soon.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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If I had a HS age kid, there's only one public school in the city of Atlanta I would realistically consider sending him/her to: North Atlanta.

There are a few more bright spots in Philadelphia.
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:52 AM
 
Location: The Left Toast
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That's what she said!
Bwah Ha Ha Haaa! You stoopid! 😄
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:00 AM
 
Location: The City
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Exactly!
Philly enjoys a higher GDP soley because of its port.

But as an important base fro corporations that provide jobs globably,Atlanta stands way out above many cities.
I think this is a major reason for Atlanta's rankings as high as it does.
Connectivelty to the world markets is very imortant and Atlanta does extremely well on this front.
Not sure I totally agree - and to that point Atlanta may actually generate more GDP from distribution in the broader sense than does Philly (would have to explore that more) but with all the rail/air/trucking/shipping I would think today Atlanta is larger in GDP generated from these types of activities

I would say a few factors contribute to the GDP difference which is pretty substantial between these two

One - older more established large economy
Two - types of industries (Philly really excels in pharmaceutical, petroleum/chemicals, meds/eds, and finance moreso than does Atlanta; probably even a tad to fair degree higher on tech as well)
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