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View Poll Results: More economically relevant state in the future
California 195 56.85%
Texas 148 43.15%
Voters: 343. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-26-2013, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I stumbled across the article today about the economic direction of both TX and CA. Not sure if it has already been posted or not. Forgive me if so.

California Suggests Suicide; Texas Asks: Can I Lend You a Knife? - Forbes
That was written in 2010 based on recession data, by an anti-urbanist named Joel Kotkin who has stated in the past that the best metro area in California is Riverside.

Nowadays California is doing quite well, actually.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:43 PM
 
Location: The city of champions
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That was written in 2010 based on recession data, by an anti-urbanist named Joel Kotkin who has stated in the past that the best metro area in California is Riverside.

Nowadays California is doing quite well, actually.
Seriously, why do people on this site love to use old news?
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Seriously, why do people on this site love to use old news?
The article talked about an ongoing trend in the different economic directions of the two states. I thought it was still relevant.
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Old 09-27-2013, 01:37 AM
 
Location: NYC/LA
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This is more current:

California v. Texas in fight for the future | The Great Debate
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:32 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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The article talked about an ongoing trend in the different economic directions of the two states. I thought it was still relevant.
Well, the stats he's citing are outdated (makes sense since that article was posted three years ago while still in recession) and they've trended for California, since that article, the opposite way from his predictions so it's more like you're flaying the writer of the article for getting things wrong.
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Interesting, it sort of mirrors what I stated earlier.

Texas will NEVER beat California until they replicate Silicon Valley, Hollywood and our world class collection of universities.

Also, the article insinuated that Texas was a bigger Ag state than California and that is not true. California is the NUMBER 1 AGRICULTURE STATE BY FAR.

Top 10 States by Agricultural Receipts, 2011
1 California $43.544 Billion
2 Iowa $29.892 Billion
3 Texas $22.681 Billion
4 Nebraska $21.814 Billion
5 Illinois $19.820 Billion
6 Minnesota $18.536 Billion
7 Kansas $15.858 Billion
8 Indiana $11.836 Billion
9 Wisconsin $11.740 Billion
10 North Carolina $10.543 Billion

States That Produce The Most Food (Ranking 1 to 50)
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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Texas at its best still can't match up to California at its worst. Texas has a loooooooooong way to go.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:39 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Interesting, it sort of mirrors what I stated earlier.

Texas will NEVER beat California until they replicate Silicon Valley, Hollywood and our world class collection of universities.

Also, the article insinuated that Texas was a bigger Ag state than California and that is not true. California is the NUMBER 1 AGRICULTURE STATE BY FAR.

Top 10 States by Agricultural Receipts, 2011
1 California $43.544 Billion
2 Iowa $29.892 Billion
3 Texas $22.681 Billion
4 Nebraska $21.814 Billion
5 Illinois $19.820 Billion
6 Minnesota $18.536 Billion
7 Kansas $15.858 Billion
8 Indiana $11.836 Billion
9 Wisconsin $11.740 Billion
10 North Carolina $10.543 Billion

States That Produce The Most Food (Ranking 1 to 50)
Texas doesn't have to beat California in the exact same industries that California is good in in order to "beat" California. That's just silly to say.

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Texas at its best still can't match up to California at its worst. Texas has a loooooooooong way to go.
Depends on how long is loooooooooong. The further the projection out, the greater the likelihood--which doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to happen at all.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Texas doesn't have to beat California in the exact same industries that California is good in in order to "beat" California. That's just silly to say.
Yes it's very silly, but 'beating' California is precisely what a bunch of Texans live for these days and that's fine, but it aint gonna happen until they surpass us as a tech hub, media hub and educational superstar.

Oh, and apparently youre not aware this is a versus thread where generally somewhere beats somewhere else.
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Old 09-27-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Yes it's very silly, but 'beating' California is precisely what a bunch of Texans live for these days and that's fine, but it aint gonna happen until they surpass us as a tech hub, media hub and educational superstar.

Oh, and apparently youre not aware this is a versus thread where generally somewhere beats somewhere else.
I think you might have misunderstood what I was saying. Texas, nor any other entity, would need to be better at the industries which California is specifically better at in order to be better overall in terms of their economy--those industries cited are certainly a factor but having just those specific industries be better in Texas are neither the necessary nor sufficient conditions for Texas to be better economically. I thought that should be obvious which is why I thought the statement was silly.
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