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Texas has a few mountains over by El Paso, I'd hardly call the topography of Texas exciting. Varied climates? What blazing hot and humid and blazing hot and dry? Your deserts? We have Death Valley, the hottest place on Earth. Your coastline? It will never compare to Big Sur. Silicon Hills will never be Silicon Valley. UT-Austin will never be UC-Berkeley or UCLA. You think Houston is big and booming? Greater SF is bigger, denser, and more diverse. Greater LA is almost the size of the entire Texas Triangle combined by population. If Texas was as expensive as California, nobody would move there. While people in Texas debate whether the moon is lit from light reflecting off the Sun because that goes against the Bible, people in California are advancing science and technology for the entire world. Now I'll admit, Texas is a better place to live than a lot of other states. It is a decently nice state. But the arrogance of Texans to think that there state is somehow comparable or more relevant than California is astounding. Texas is like the annoying little step-brother that California holds back with one hand as he swings wildly in the air. The funny part is while the Texas governor takes shots at California all day long, nobody in California even cares or notices. All the rhetoric in Texas holds on to the perceived hope of California's failure. Hoping companies will move from there, hoping California will collapse, etc. Do you ever hear people in California saying "Oh I hope Dell or Exxon will move to California from Texas" or anything like that? No! Texas isn't even on California's radar. I think that is the most telling difference.
Well I can't find much to disagree with but didn't pay much attention to the outright bashing part. Though it also annoys the hell out of me when Texans talk about companies moving there from California especially the conversation about Chevron comes up. I do disagree that the Bay Area is more diverse than Houston. I think they both are about equal if anything. Texas needs to focus on improving and stop trying to compare itself to everything. It's annoying and arrogant. Also, 2014 is Rick Perry's last year. I would still choose Texas over the vast majority of states though.
Right now, Texas still has catching up to do. But at the rate Texas is moving, it might be much sooner than expected when Texas can go toe-to-toe with Cali.
Texas bashing is like second nature on here it seems. So funny how uninformed you people are.
Texas has a few mountains over by El Paso, I'd hardly call the topography of Texas exciting. Varied climates? What blazing hot and humid and blazing hot and dry? Your deserts? We have Death Valley, the hottest place on Earth. Your coastline? It will never compare to Big Sur. Silicon Hills will never be Silicon Valley. UT-Austin will never be UC-Berkeley or UCLA. You think Houston is big and booming? Greater SF is bigger, denser, and more diverse. Greater LA is almost the size of the entire Texas Triangle combined by population. If Texas was as expensive as California, nobody would move there. While people in Texas debate whether the moon is lit from light reflecting off the Sun because that goes against the Bible, people in California are advancing science and technology for the entire world. Now I'll admit, Texas is a better place to live than a lot of other states. It is a decently nice state. But the arrogance of Texans to think that there state is somehow comparable or more relevant than California is astounding. Texas is like the annoying little step-brother that California holds back with one hand as he swings wildly in the air. The funny part is while the Texas governor takes shots at California all day long, nobody in California even cares or notices. All the rhetoric in Texas holds on to the perceived hope of California's failure. Hoping companies will move from there, hoping California will collapse, etc. Do you ever hear people in California saying "Oh I hope Dell or Exxon will move to California from Texas" or anything like that? No! Texas isn't even on California's radar. I think that is the most telling difference.
Keep dreaming.
LA's MSA is as large as Houston + D/FW combined only. That's not including San Antonio or Austin's metropolitan areas.
LA's MSA is as large as Houston + D/FW combined only. That's not including San Antonio or Austin's metropolitan areas.
Some of you California homers truly amaze me.
I assume he is talking about CSA. If so, well LA is around 18 million. Dallas/Houston/Austin/San Antonio together does not reach that population. Now you have to take into account of the rest of the smaller cities inside the triangle such as Waco/Killeen/Bryan. But that's only about an extra 3 million. So in essence, he's correct only if he's talking about LA plus the inland empire.
I assume he is talking about CSA. If so, well LA is around 18 million. Dallas/Houston/Austin/San Antonio together does not reach that population. Now you have to take into account of the rest of the smaller cities inside the triangle such as Waco/Killeen/Bryan. But that's only about an extra 3 million. So in essence, he's correct only if he's talking about LA plus the inland empire.
MSA is the correct way to measure not CSA.
San Antonio, San Diego, & Phoenix don't even have a CSA.
Right now, Texas still has catching up to do. But at the rate Texas is moving, it might be much sooner than expected when Texas can go toe-to-toe with Cali.
Texas bashing is like second nature on here it seems. So funny how uninformed you people are.
Not really, because Texans always assume because they are "moving fast" that California is also "standing still." It isn't, and if anything the growth rate of Texas is likely to slow down long before it is close to California once cost of living starts to rise.
LA's MSA is as large as Houston + D/FW combined only. That's not including San Antonio or Austin's metropolitan areas.
Some of you California homers truly amaze me.
1) THIS is my favorite part. You assume that I must BE from California to be defending it! I'm not! I'd rather live in Texas than a whole bunch of states, but I'm not going to pretend that Texas can ever be comparable to California.
2) LA's CSA is over 17 million. So.... Yea.... I also said almost.
San Antonio, San Diego, & Phoenix don't even have a CSA.
That is because they don't have any neighboring MSAs that are related to the central city by commuter patterns. CSA is another census stat just like any other. As long as we compare apples to apples they are legitimate.
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San Antonio, San Diego, & Phoenix don't even have a CSA.
The thing is that poster was comparing a large region of Texas to a general region of Southern California. In this instance, I think it is fair to include the Inland Empire to Los Angeles.
You cannot argue the fact that Los Angeles + Inland Empire > All those Texas cities in population. I guess you can say that is an unfair comparison for some reason, but you cannot say it is untrue.
Texas will catch California, in and around the year 2202!!!!! Let us just hypothetically pretend that the numerical gains going on in Texas continue at the same high rate they are today. If we extrapolate the population of both states given their current population growth, we get the following table. Good luck with the whole "toe-to-toe" with California thing, unless you mean in a couple centuries lol.
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