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The West Coast is more progressive IMO, but the West Coast is too arrogant and full of itself for my liking.
Yeah sure,
As far as science & technology is concerned to be a progressive. You're absolutely correct. However, I strongly disagree on the WC's time management & work ethic not to be progressive. It is more of a regressive mentality not to get things done. You kind of wonder why the WC is going through major budget constraints due to its dysfunctional socialist programs: amnesty for illegal aliens, free drugs for homeless, high taxes, lucrative state retirements, medicare, utility expenses, welfare, etc.
There is a saying, "You turn the WC upside down & everything falls apart."
I agree 100%,
The WC is very "SUPERFICIALLY ARROGANT" about themselves.
WC is full of fake *******s & EC is full of real *******s.
The West Coast often gets the ball rolling in this country-the culture seems to allow for more conscious and independent thinkers.
Today, Washington votes to label GMO's after California narrowly voted the measure down last year.
I guess?
The WC has this so-called artificial socialist mentality to mirror Europe's model to be flawed. WC people tend to follow the band wagon crowd in order not to be ostracized from the group. If you disagree on things such as economical, political, or social beliefs. You will lose your friends right away.
Trust me,
I was an ex-Californian to be born & raised in LA. Until I graduated from HS to move & live up in SF for a bit. Later, I left CA to attend college in the EC to major in marketing & finance. It was located in Philly. I did an internship work in Boston for a bit. After I graduated from college then I got a job in NYC.
I don't regret at all to leave the WC.
There is a saying to live in the EC, "Not everybody are your friends, but the few friends you have are your real friends."
As well you have to have real thick skin in order to deal & live with people in the EC from all different backgrounds & personalities. I understand to live & work in the EC is not for everybody. But I like how you try to work with other various people in one big centered city to make it work.
The WC has this so-called artificial socialist mentality to mirror Europe's model to be flawed. WC people tend to follow the band wagon crowd in order not to be ostracized from the group. If you disagree on things such as economical, political, or social beliefs. You will lose your friends right away.
Trust me,
I was an ex-Californian to be born & raised in LA. Until I graduated from HS to move & live up in SF for a bit. Later, I left CA to attend college in the EC to major in marketing & finance. It was located in Philly. I did an internship work in Boston for a bit. After I graduated from college then I got a job in NYC.
I don't regret at all to leave the WC.
There is a saying to live in the EC, "Not everybody are your friends, but the few friends you have are your real friends."
As well you have to have real thick skin in order to deal & live with people in the EC from all different backgrounds & personalities. I understand to live & work in the EC is not for everybody. But I like how you try to work with other various people in one big centered city to make it work.
My Southern California friend kind of gets eaten alive in NYC (well Staten Island, where she currently resides). She complains that no one is nice, everyone's an as*hole, and she's terrified of the way we drive. She thinks we're abrupt, can't understand why strangers don't say hi to one another more often, and thinks our accents make us sound mean. She's constantly getting emotional about the way she believes people treat her and repeatedly says that she wants to move back home but she loves Manhattan too much. I think the fact that people won't drop everything to help you out at your beck and call that instant in this area at least is most shocking to her. She always wants rides to airports, for example (all 3 NYC area ones) but fails to realize that a. people are sometimes busy and b. it costs $13 to get over the bridges to leave Staten Island or get back in. She wants people to help her out when she wants it, no earlier or later and that's not always possible. Not sure if this is a her thing or more of a west coast mentality but it at least is her and she expects people to be the same, and doesn't indicate that they're not at home. In fact, she says everyone at home is always nice and willing to help her out more than here. Are we willing to help one another out? Absolutely, especially the closer we are to people. But maybe calling a cab to get you to the airport at 5 am especially considering the bridge toll is a more considerate option. You don't get to be mad when people say no and call them names, then generalize an entire city, region, or coast of people.
In fact, I love her she is my friend, but as you may be able to tell, her constantly ragging on my home area gets on my nerves. Yes, we're different in some ways on this coast, but get used to it or leave. Constantly calling everyone in NY and NJ an as*hole won't make her many more friends, trust me. Just a personal story from me.
I don't. Nobody truthfully writes a sentence like that.
Thank you very much for you to correct my grammar & incomplete sentence. But you haven't provide any evidence to argue against my thesis statements on this thread. I'm waiting for your reply.
My Southern California friend kind of gets eaten alive in NYC (well Staten Island, where she currently resides). She complains that no one is nice, everyone's an as*hole, and she's terrified of the way we drive. She thinks we're abrupt, can't understand why strangers don't say hi to one another more often, and thinks our accents make us sound mean. She's constantly getting emotional about the way she believes people treat her and repeatedly says that she wants to move back home but she loves Manhattan too much. I think the fact that people won't drop everything to help you out at your beck and call that instant in this area at least is most shocking to her. She always wants rides to airports, for example (all 3 NYC area ones) but fails to realize that a. people are sometimes busy and b. it costs $13 to get over the bridges to leave Staten Island or get back in. She wants people to help her out when she wants it, no earlier or later and that's not always possible. Not sure if this is a her thing or more of a west coast mentality but it at least is her and she expects people to be the same, and doesn't indicate that they're not at home. In fact, she says everyone at home is always nice and willing to help her out more than here. Are we willing to help one another out? Absolutely, especially the closer we are to people. But maybe calling a cab to get you to the airport at 5 am especially considering the bridge toll is a more considerate option. You don't get to be mad when people say no and call them names, then generalize an entire city, region, or coast of people.
In fact, I love her she is my friend, but as you may be able to tell, her constantly ragging on my home area gets on my nerves. Yes, we're different in some ways on this coast, but get used to it or leave. Constantly calling everyone in NY and NJ an as*hole won't make her many more friends, trust me. Just a personal story from me.
Hey Jersey Girl,
I just read your great post about your Cali girlfriend. No offense, but why did she settled in Richmond Co. aka Staten Island? You would think a person from out of town, who would like to live in Manhattan. Brooklyn or Queens is okay to live b/c you're closer to Manhattan. The Bronx forget it. Since it is the highest murder per capita of all the 5 boroughs.
Wish your Cali girlfriend the best.
Yeah,
Most of my experience to meet WC people in the EC. The WC people don't stay very long due to the competitiveness, directness, fast pace, mass work load, rudeness, weather, various people, & the list goes on. The EC cities are very densely populated & centered in one area. Again, a person must have "VERY THICK SKIN" in order to survive on the Atlantic NE region. This hurts many WC people's pride not to handle it. Go figure, the WC is laid back not to get things done. How sad!
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My college roommate from Long Island has been done doing stuff that is still "happening" so to speak here in Arizona. While Arizona itself is behind the curve, we are very much so based off California culture. But I'm constantly introducing my roommate to new things. I use California slang when I talk sometimes, and she constantly asks "What?" and I do the same to her (mainly her accent, but still). The Coasts are progressive in their own ways. I would say Seattle and San Francisco is a lot like NYC from my experiences with the people that live in them, except I would say Seattle and San Fran have more introverted personalities. The East Coast is much more career-driven while the West is more materialistic-driven.
I would say the West is not independent and innovative. You would assume with the "pioneer" attitude but nowadays--with the cities on the coast--it is about getting in the right circles and staying there. Everyone is trying to be someone they are not over here. Trying to look like a Malibu Barbie, trying to be a hipster, trying to be skeleton-thin, trying to have "swag", that is what Cali is about. Maybe not so much Seattle--but people who try to be hipsters go to Portland if they can (or San Fran). Personality-wise, definitely not a trendsetter. I'd say the trendsetters live in the Northeast who try new things and it reaches out West, and then it goes inland from there.
On the surface people on the West seem more individualistic. But the culture promotes acceptance into a group. People on the West are far more group oriented in general. You'll see them hang much tighter in cliques or circles more. Many people on the West don't move very far away from their families either. I've found more people out West who essentially have been in the same area their entire life, more so than the East.
Again, I think the East Coast takes America's sense of individualism more seriously. I find more East Coast families emphasize what you can do on your own. How do you stand on your own two feet, how far you can make it without family, how much you can be your own person. With that said, the East Coast is far more individualistic than the West. The West is less about standing out on your own, more about fitting in with a group. This is why the social environments are drastically different from East to West.
East Coast is about individuals meeting individuals. That why there is a more active social and night life on the East Coast.
The West Coast is more about doing activities together as a group.
So on a surface level the West may seem more individualistic. I think the West is more non conformist, and people think that's individuality. In reality the two aren't related. People on the East Coast are more conformist, but I think the function more independently.
You know it,
I was born & raised in the WC, particularly LA, until I graduated HS. After that I moved & lived up in SF for a bit. Later, I attended college in the EC to major in marketing & finance. It was located in Philly. I did a job internship in Boston for a bit. After I graduated from college to find a job in NYC. I don't regret at all to leave the WC.
It's funny & true,
You strongly stated in bold above how WC folks don't leave their geographical area. They don't travel around the country & globe too much for that matter. I had some HS acquaintances found me on FB, but I didn't add them as friends. Instead I actually checked on their FB profiles & surfed on their friends & photos, whom I remembered during my HS years. SURE ENOUGH, they pretty much stayed in the same region of SoCal. A few moved out to other regions of the US such as NorCal, OR, WA, NV, AZ, etc. I myself & one person moved to live in the EC. I live in NYC & this one person lives in DC. Go figure, I work in the private financial sector of the economy & he works in the public sector of the Federal govt.
The West Coast often gets the ball rolling in this country-the culture seems to allow for more conscious and independent thinkers.
Today, Washington votes to label GMO's after California narrowly voted the measure down last year.
Except Connecticut passed it last year.
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But you haven't provide any evidence to argue against my thesis statements on this thread. I'm waiting for your reply. 
