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Old 03-15-2014, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Courtesy of Davem, Archboston.com
Hopefully this will be the future of the MBTA if they can muster up the funds to make this happen!
Cool map but I doubt they ever get close to this, a lot of those lines seem to be of the fantasy variety.

 
Old 03-15-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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SMART train is a brand new commuter rail system that is 70 miles long.
Sonoma-Marin Area Rail Transit - Wikipedia, the
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I thought BART got approved for a line to Santa Rosa. Is that what this "SMART" is?
 
Old 03-15-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I thought BART got approved for a line to Santa Rosa. Is that what this "SMART" is?
SMART is for Marin and Sonoma counties, BART is not going up that way at this point. Although a connector between Larkspur and Richmond would be incredible. Someday perhaps.

There is talk of expanding BART to Hercules as well, which puts the system close to Vallejo!

But nothing concrete on Hercules now.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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If you are going to use such large regions like CSAs, shouldn't commuter rail be weighted heavier than or at least the same as light rail?

No, Commuter Rail has extremely low ridership per mile. There are also very few stops compared to forms of transit that provides the option to live without a car like the other's mentioned. It really should be under BTR and streetcars to be honest considering the frequency and stop spacing.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 05:16 PM
 
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SMART is for Marin and Sonoma counties, BART is not going up that way at this point. Although a connector between Larkspur and Richmond would be incredible. Someday perhaps.

There is talk of expanding BART to Hercules as well, which puts the system close to Vallejo!

But nothing concrete on Hercules now.
I see, very interesting.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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No, Commuter Rail has extremely low ridership per mile. There are also very few stops compared to forms of transit that provides the option to live without a car like the other's mentioned. It really should be under BTR and streetcars to be honest considering the frequency and stop spacing.
Depends on the commuter rail line.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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These plans will never come to fruition.

That MBTA map for Boston is pure fantasy. Also, even if it became that extensive, imagine how long it'd take to get downtown...
 
Old 03-16-2014, 08:30 AM
 
Location: The City
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Depends on the commuter rail line.
Agreed - In my neck of the woods about half the commuter rail lines are pretty decent in location and distance (even headways though could be better) - the other half are more just commuter lines with poor headways and mostly used morning and afternoon rush. CR is a tough animal of sorts to pin down.


HR systems like a WMATA or BART - sort of have aspects of both - the more modern incarnation of say a Boston/Philly Subway/CR combo - probably better (newer incarnations) on the whole but functionally have comparative similarities - Even SEPTA commuter rail has a sort subway functionality in the direct core. Just older build out radiating in the comparative sense

On this topic the Commuter Rail in Philly has a vastly under-utilized infrastructure in the current day - could scale with limited additional resource or cost pretty quickly and easily - maybe there will be a greater need to capitalize on this if the city could ever truly gets is business attraction act together with the archaic anti-business development tax structure (though has made some positive improvements lately) - Am hopeful long term and the city just solved for a partial pension deficit by selling the municipal gas authority for 1.5 Billion - which will hopefully have impacts to better cost containment ability to change the tide on tax structure longer term.
 
Old 03-16-2014, 10:21 AM
 
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Wiki link says its not more than 5 miles in extension.
 
Old 03-16-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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Since 1995, Dallas/Collin County has constructed 85 miles of light rail (through 2012). By 2014, the system will be finished to 93 miles. DART is the largest light rail operator in the United States, with 85 miles (136.8 km) of track.
There is also a 30 mile commuter rail from Downtown Dallas to downtown Fort Worth.
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