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Since 1995, Dallas/Collin County has constructed 85 miles of light rail (through 2012). By 2014, the system will be finished to 93 miles. DART is the largest light rail operator in the United States, with 85 miles (136.8 km) of track.
There is also a 30 mile commuter rail from Downtown Dallas to downtown Fort Worth.
Could you post the mile's for lines still under construction and yet to be built. We can't use line's that are finished in this analysis.
These are the 5 lines that will be built simultaneously in the next couple years:
EXPO Phase II - 6.6 x 3 = 19.8
Foothill Extension to Azusa - 11.3 x 3 = 33.9
Crenshaw Line - 8.5 x 3 = 25.5
Regional Connector - 1.9 x 3 = 5.7
Purple Line to VA Hospital - 9 x 5 = 45
Perris Valley Metrolink extension - 24 x 1 = 24
DTLA Streetcar - 2 x 1 = 2
155.9 points in the next 10 years or so - though about 25 of these points are Phase II and III of the Purple Line, which won't be finished for 20 years.
Other lines are planned and partially funded but have not had their EIRs yet because they are further down the pipeline. So we don't know the length of these lines (Gold Line Eastside Extension, Green Line South Bay Extension, Santa Ana Branch Corridor) and for some of the lines we don't know the mode (East SFV Corridor, Sepulveda Pass Corridor). Additionally, there are plans for a 2016 tax measure to speed up and add new extensions to these plans - I think with better public awareness Metro can get those extra percentage points to get over the 2/3 hump. And if the Federal government steps up to the plate some of these lines could be sped up with additional federal dollars, allowing for new 2nd generation lines to step up (such as the Crenshaw Line extension to the Purple Line, a Purple Line extension to Santa Monica, a Yellow Line from Pasadena to Glendale to Burbank, a Red Line Extension to the Burbank Airport, a Silver Line down Sunset to the Red Line in Hollywood) So it is really a fluid situation in Los Angeles and very difficult to calculate. But lets just say the transit expansion here is really unprecedented.
But to follow along with the game with the information we have right now, I would guess Los Angeles County alone has somewhere around 200-250 points in the next 20 years. If you add in the IE and OC I would say something closer to 275-300 as there are streetcars and BRT planned in those areas.
These are the 5 lines that will be built simultaneously in the next couple years:
EXPO Phase II - 6.6 x 3 = 19.8
Foothill Extension to Azusa - 11.3 x 3 = 33.9
Crenshaw Line - 8.5 x 3 = 25.5
Regional Connector - 1.9 x 3 = 5.7
Purple Line to VA Hospital - 9 x 5 = 45
Perris Valley Metrolink extension - 24 x 1 = 24
DTLA Streetcar - 2 x 1 = 2
155.9 points in the next 10 years or so - though about 25 of these points are Phase II and III of the Purple Line, which won't be finished for 20 years.
Other lines are planned and partially funded but have not had their EIRs yet because they are further down the pipeline. So we don't know the length of these lines (Gold Line Eastside Extension, Green Line South Bay Extension, Santa Ana Branch Corridor) and for some of the lines we don't know the mode (East SFV Corridor, Sepulveda Pass Corridor).
I would guess Los Angeles County alone has somewhere around 200-250 points. If you add in the IE and OC I would say something closer to 275-300 as there are streetcars and BRT planned in those areas.
Which parts are Phase II and Phase III. I want to get an accurate measurement. Also, are those BRT line's "Gold Standard" level lines? What will their specs be? I didn't include D.C.'s BRT network in Montgomery County which is in planning yet because the fight to make it "Gold Standard" is still ongoing. Currently, I believe it's the only system in the nation that could achieve that standard, however, I could be mistaken. What will the standard be for the L.A. BRT lines?
I would think that Denver should be top 3! It will blow past Dallas soon and leave it in the dust for total LR mileage. When done, it will be one of the largest LR systems in the Nation. I believe it is either 119 or 123 miles of new line. We just opened the Line to the Federal Center recently! And the Union Station transit Hub is well on its way! For CURRENT stuff, Denver is near the top no doubt for total miles of new lines!
Could you post what lines are under construction and planned only in the next 20 years by mileage?
Which parts are Phase II and Phase III. I want to get an accurate measurement. Also, are those BRT line's "Gold Standard" level lines? What will their specs be? I didn't include D.C.'s BRT network in Montgomery County which is in planning yet because the fight to make it "Gold Standard" is still ongoing. Currently, I believe it's the only system in the nation that could achieve that standard, however, I could be mistaken. What will the standard be for the L.A. BRT lines?
It shouldn't make a difference where the Phase II and III are because they will be finished in 20 years. But Phase I goes to La Cienega, Phase II to Westwood I think and III to the VA. Phase I is 4.9 miles and will be done in 10 years, it makes up the bulk of the line.
And I have no idea about the BRT because they are in Riverside and San Bernardino Counties, and are not well reported on by LA area media. Probably not "gold standard" though.
So if you don't count the outer county BRT it is around 250 points for the LA area, knowing what we know now. Could increase to 275 or 300 depending on funding situations.
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Don't think I've seen this mentioned anywhere on this site, but the long proposed expansion of the South Shore service in NW Indiana is moving forward rapidly in even the last few weeks. It's only an 8 mile extension but it'd be great for "The Region" if it gets built, and is only the first of a few expansion proposals.
I believe METRA has several planned expansion projects, but not sure if they have the same momentum that the South Shore expansion seems to have. Probably helps that Indiana isn't flat broke.
Could you post the mile's for lines still under construction and yet to be built. We can't use line's that are finished in this analysis.
Using the Transport Politic website:
Under construction:
South Oak Cliff Blue Line Extension (Light Rail): 2.6 miles.
Orange Line Extension (Light Rail): 4.7 miles. This will connect DART to DFW airport.
Oak Cliff Streetcar: 1.9 miles. This is a starter line, with eventual plans to expand it further into Oak Cliff.
I also know that the McKinney Streetcar in Uptown and Downtown is expanding, but for the purposes of this exercise that value is negligible.
Planned:
Cotton Belt commuter rail: 67 total miles. If built, this would run from the TRE in downtown Fort Worth up to DFW as TexRail, and then up through Addison, Richardson, and Plano as part of DART.
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