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What is funny about that poster's post is that I think Atlanta feels way bigger than Dallas. lol. I have spent a lot of time in both cities. Atlanta has the rapid transit rail and a massive skyline and way denser neighborhoods.
See, I said this same thing too. I wouldn't say waaay bigger but in terms of feel, it's Houston>Atlanta>Dallas
It's just hard to visit Dallas and believe it's larger than Atlanta, much less Houston.
Here, I direct you to figure 3 (hold ctrl and press the F key) and you will see that Phoenix crashed from growing nearly 4% annually to barely above 1 percent in 2009. To this day, Phoenix has not recovered. It probably never will.
Now, lets move on to all metros as a whole.
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Here, you can see that Charlotte grew 32% between 2000 and 2010. The secret data in there though is that Charlotte was growing at nearly 4% annually, just like Phoenix, until the Great Recession hit. Today, it is growing at a 1.8% annual rate. Pathetic considering what it was prior to the crash.
Looking at Nashville, its metro grew by 21.2% between 2000 and 2010. Today, it is growing at a rate of roughly 1.7% a year. Slightly down from what is was growing prior to the recession but it was never a miraculous grower to begin with.
Here is the list of metro areas and their growth rate post 2010 census. Don't worry, Wikipedia has the data sourced correctly.
In the future, try to do some research of your own before you question those who know what they are actually talking about.
He did, and both of your are right with your stats. His point was that all of the cities you listed are still chugging along at well-above-average growth rates, so you misspoke when you claimed that there were average or just above. That's all. Unless, that is, you meant "Average" as in average for that metro area since 1990, then you are correct, or possibly even overstating the current state of growth for Nashville, etc. by stating they are growing at just-above average rates. However, I'm not sure anyone else assumed that's what you meant.
Perhaps the only thing missing here is a bit of clarity. No big deal!
What is funny about that poster's post is that I think Atlanta feels way bigger than Dallas. lol. I have spent a lot of time in both cities. Atlanta has the rapid transit rail and a massive skyline and way denser neighborhoods.
Dallas actually has a larger rapid transit rail, larger skyline, and much denser neighborhoods than Atlanta.
Switch Dallas and Atlanta in your sentence and everything is correct.
No, all wrong.
Why do people debate things on C-D which are actually verifiable and impossible to be debated.
It's factual that A. Dallas is more dense than Atlanta (per Census density stats), B. Dallas has more rail than Atlanta (per measuring DART rail to MARTA rail track length) and C. Dallas has more skyscrapers than Atlanta (per Emporis).
What is the point of arguing something that can't be argued? Is it mindless homerism?
I don't even like Dallas, or Atlanta, for that matter. But you can't argue things like population density.
What is funny about that poster's post is that I think Atlanta feels way bigger than Dallas. lol. I have spent a lot of time in both cities. Atlanta has the rapid transit rail and a massive skyline and way denser neighborhoods.
I always said that Atlanta has a bigger and denser core than Dallas and Houston, however we're talking about metros, not urban cores.
He did, and both of your are right with your stats. His point was that all of the cities you listed are still chugging along at well-above-average growth rates, so you misspoke when you claimed that there were average or just above. That's all. Unless, that is, you meant "Average" as in average for that metro area since 1990, then you are correct, or possibly even overstating the current state of growth for Nashville, etc. by stating they are growing at just-above average rates. However, I'm not sure anyone else assumed that's what you meant.
Perhaps the only thing missing here is a bit of clarity. No big deal!
My whole point was very accurately stated. That many metros in America are growing pathetically compared to what they were pulling prior to the Great Recession. They may still be above average, but still pathetic given past growth rates.
Why do people debate things on C-D which are actually verifiable and impossible to be debated.
It's factual that A. Dallas is more dense than Atlanta (per Census density stats), B. Dallas has more rail than Atlanta (per measuring DART rail to MARTA rail track length) and C. Dallas has more skyscrapers than Atlanta (per Emporis).
What is the point of arguing something that can't be argued? Is it mindless homerism?
I don't even like Dallas, or Atlanta, for that matter. But you can't argue things like population density.
Because he was talking about the urban core which is where Atlanta does come out on top. Dallas have more uniform density throughout the city(which is why the average density is like 200 ppsm higher), while Atlanta has a denser core area and it's neighborhoods do feel denser.
If I can recall in another thread, Atlanta had 141k residents within a 1 mile of the CBD, while Dallas barely has 50k-60k. This was apparently from the downtownreport.com site or whatever.
No crystal ball, but if growth for the remainder of the decade remains the same, here is how 2020 will look.
2020 Projected CSAs and Uncombined MSAs, Population 3,000,000+
New York 24,435,441
Los Angeles 19,460,082
Washington DC 10,350,055
Chicago 10,080,279
San Francisco 9,208,729
Boston 8,386,466
Dallas 8,120,019
Houston 7,427,598
Philadelphia 7,330,803
Miami 7,102,446
Atlanta 6,749,959
Detroit 5,303,474
Seattle 4,891,133
Phoenix 4,879,137
Minneapolis 4,061,701
Denver 3,712,324
San Diego 3,481,776
Cleveland 3,468,620
Orlando 3,343,246
Portland 3,257,308
Tampa 3,074,329
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