More international/cosmpolitan: Chicago vs. San Francisco (place, America, people)
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Since Chicago vs. San Francisco seems to be a very popular theme on this forum right now, I guess I'll make a poll that will actually get responses. Which one of these two areas is more international/cosmopolitan.
Well right off the bat, at least HALF of the 8.4 million people in the Bay Area are either foreign born or their US-born children.
Its probably closer to 60% at this point. I say that because fairus.org claimed in 2000 that 48% of the region was 'immigrant stock', 3rd in the US behind LA and Miami. NY was 4th at 41% and Chicago was much lower.
Now its definitely higher than 48%.
The Bay Area is extremely diverse and cosmopolitan not only in the urban core but deep into suburbia. This is a pic I made for a previous thread that compares the Bay to the entire corridor btwn NY and Philadelphia.
These 2 maps are to-scale.
I cant see Chicagoland really being about it like that.
I cant see Chicagoland really being about it like that.
Not as much as SF area but the suburbs of Chicago have more diversity than you would think. For example, most of the Korean, Japanese, and even Indian community are actually in the suburbs (though there's a sizable Indian community and decent Korean community in the city itself).
I'd say the 58 flight connections is misconstrued. Chicago is a hub and the airlines domestic network outside of Chicago plays a huge part with the viability of those flights. A better barometer is service by foreign airlines and both regions have a similar amount
Foreign Tourism
2012 visitation...
1. New York, NY
... 5. San Francisco, CA: 2.8 million
6. Las Vegas, NV
7. Honolulu, HI
8. Washington, DC 9. Chicago, IL: 1.4 million
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Even if I'm very lenient and call Number of Immigrants, Number of Languages Spoken and Number of Foreign Language Speakers all ties as well because of the influence of San Jose, they're still pretty much equal and there's no clear winner.
Two different kinds of cosmopolitan, I'd say.
Nailed it. I was going to write a long winded post trying to summarize this point the best I could; but your stats illustrated it perfectly.
Well right off the bat, at least HALF of the 8.4 million people in the Bay Area are either foreign born or their US-born children.
Its probably closer to 60% at this point. I say that because fairus.org claimed in 2000 that 48% of the region was 'immigrant stock', 3rd in the US behind LA and Miami. NY was 4th at 41% and Chicago was much lower.
Now its definitely higher than 48%.
The Bay Area is extremely diverse and cosmopolitan not only in the urban core but deep into suburbia. This is a pic I made for a previous thread that compares the Bay to the entire corridor btwn NY and Philadelphia.
These 2 maps are to-scale.
I cant see Chicagoland really being about it like that.
Not sure how NY/Philadelphia is relevant for a Chicago/San Francisco thread, but I'll bite.
You VERY carefully hand picked those areas by trimming as much green as possible from the Bay and including as much as you could from the NY/NJ/Philadelphia area. Had you instead gone with Newark to New Haven (similar in distance) and for the Bay Area chosen the SF Peninsula and Marin, the results would be quite a bit different. There's a much higher Asian population in the Bay area anyway (which literally adds color to the Bay Area map), and suburban New Jersey is pretty white. Not to mention, both regions are developed quite a bit differently due to geography and history.
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