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Agree, I find it a bit humorous that someone from LA puts down Milwaukee, esp., when they have likely never been there. Is Milwaukee's downtown as big as LA's? Well, no. Is it as appealling/interesting? Arguably.
Agree, I find it a bit humorous that someone from LA puts down Milwaukee, esp., when they have likely never been there. Is Milwaukee's downtown as big as LA's? Well, no. Is it as appealling/interesting? Arguably.
Milwaukee doesn't have much of a skyline, but the downtown area is actually more walkable, dense and vibrant than its population would indicate. LA is the opposite - a giant US city that has an unimpressive downtown. Does that make LA any less of a great world city? Maybe a tiny bit, but LA scores big in so many other areas that it doesn't really matter. The fact remains that DTLA doesn't match its population or place on the world's stage - yet.
I've spent several months of my life in SoCal, and while the weather is perfect and much of the scenery beautiful, you find attitudes like the person above (who I 100% guarantee has never been to Milwaukee, which I never brought into the conversation in the first place) are widespread. This is the main reason why I turned down a multitude of great CA job offers over the years to remain in Wisconsin, where people aren't constantly trying to justify their own existence by cutting on people who choose to live in another zip or time zone.
I have a lot of friends in the LA area, and they're good folks; almost all of them are natives embarassed by the last generation of newcomers like Freshflakes757.
Milwaukee doesn't have much of a skyline, but the downtown area is actually more walkable, dense and vibrant than its population would indicate. LA is the opposite - a giant US city that has an unimpressive downtown. Does that make LA any less of a great world city? Maybe a tiny bit, but LA scores big in so many other areas that it doesn't really matter. The fact remains that DTLA doesn't match its population or place on the world's stage - yet.
I've spent several months of my life in SoCal, and while the weather is perfect and much of the scenery beautiful, you find attitudes like the person above (who I 100% guarantee has never been to Milwaukee, which I never brought into the conversation in the first place) are widespread. This is the main reason why I turned down a multitude of great CA job offers over the years to remain in Wisconsin, where people aren't constantly trying to justify their own existence by cutting on people who choose to live in another zip or time zone.
I have a lot of friends in the LA area, and they're good folks; almost all of them are natives embarassed by the last generation of newcomers like Freshflakes757.
Yeah it seems like Milwaukee has a downtown that punches above its weight. That is a nice picture of the waterfront, looks almost European.
I actually think that DTLA is as "walkable, dense and vibrant" as the city's population represents (or slightly below its weight) but for decades, the type of walkability and vibrancy that DTLA offered is not the kind that is well-received here on C-D. In fact I have heard from some long-time DTLA residents that the core was actually more bustling during its "nadir".
Yeah it seems like Milwaukee has a downtown that punches above its weight. That is a nice picture of the waterfront, looks almost European.
I actually think that DTLA is as "walkable, dense and vibrant" as the city's population represents (or slightly below its weight) but for decades, the type of walkability and vibrancy that DTLA offered is not the kind that is well-received here on C-D. In fact I have heard from some long-time DTLA residents that the core was actually more bustling during its "nadir".
It has some of the most "walkable weather" year-round, I don't think anyone could argue that.
It has some of the most "walkable weather" year-round, I don't think anyone could argue that.
It's also walkable in the typical sense too. Unless you are talking about the redevelopment area of Bunker Hill (from about Fig to Hope), which is fairly auto-centric and while not unwalkable, is not pedestrian friendly. But this is about 1/8 of downtown. For some reason it seems this area comes to represent DTLA the most, even though there are areas like the Historic Core, Fashion District, Financial District and South Park which are highly walkable in every sense of the word.
Yeah it seems like Milwaukee has a downtown that punches above its weight. That is a nice picture of the waterfront, looks almost European.
I actually think that DTLA is as "walkable, dense and vibrant" as the city's population represents (or slightly below its weight) but for decades, the type of walkability and vibrancy that DTLA offered is not the kind that is well-received here on C-D. In fact I have heard from some long-time DTLA residents that the core was actually more bustling during its "nadir".
When people say Milwaukee is like a mini version of Chicago's downtown, there is truth in it. (Milwaukee River running through it, Lake Michigan on the eastern border, walkable, lots to do, etc.).
Milwaukee doesn't have much of a skyline, but the downtown area is actually more walkable, dense and vibrant than its population would indicate. LA is the opposite - a giant US city that has an unimpressive downtown. Does that make LA any less of a great world city? Maybe a tiny bit, but LA scores big in so many other areas that it doesn't really matter. The fact remains that DTLA doesn't match its population or place on the world's stage - yet.
I've spent several months of my life in SoCal, and while the weather is perfect and much of the scenery beautiful, you find attitudes like the person above (who I 100% guarantee has never been to Milwaukee, which I never brought into the conversation in the first place) are widespread. This is the main reason why I turned down a multitude of great CA job offers over the years to remain in Wisconsin, where people aren't constantly trying to justify their own existence by cutting on people who choose to live in another zip or time zone.
I have a lot of friends in the LA area, and they're good folks; almost all of them are natives embarassed by the last generation of newcomers like Freshflakes757.
I've been living in LA on and off for the last 9 years or so. I'm not a newcomer.
Apologies if I was a bit harsh on that one, but it's a pet peave of mine when people criticize DTLA. Especially New Yorkers.
I've been living in LA on and off for the last 9 years or so. I'm not a newcomer.
Apologies if I was a bit harsh on that one, but it's a pet peave of mine when people criticize DTLA. Especially New Yorkers.
Well, you're definitely a newcomer, but apology accepted
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