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View Poll Results: Which has the strongest Italian presence?
Baltimore 24 55.81%
New Orleans 8 18.60%
San Francisco 11 25.58%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-22-2014, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Originally Posted by KodeBlue View Post
Baltimore is the south too, so I don't see the logic in that statement.
The main reason Baltimore doesn't have a mafia crime family like other cities with traditionally large Italian populations is because Baltimore was always considered part of the Philly mob territory.

 
Old 09-22-2014, 04:26 PM
 
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The main reason Baltimore doesn't have a mafia crime family like other cities with traditionally large Italian populations is because Baltimore was always considered part of the Philly mob territory.
Baltimore had a crime family independent of NYC and Philly, but eventually is became a faction of the Gambino Family.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_Crew
 
Old 09-22-2014, 04:34 PM
 
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The main reason Baltimore doesn't have a mafia crime family like other cities with traditionally large Italian populations is because Baltimore was always considered part of the Philly mob territory.
Not true at all. Please tell me you didn't get that from a crappy Wikipedia article. The Philly mafia has only ever had activity in the Philly/South Jersey area and to a lesser extent northern Delaware and that's it. Baltimore is a completely separate and different area that never had a notable mafia presence. Baltimore doesn't have a "traditionally large" Italian population btw so I don't know what you are trying to say.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 04:36 PM
 
Location: The City
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Not true at all. Please tell me you didn't get that from a crappy Wikipedia article. The Philly mafia has only ever had activity in the Philly/South Jersey area and to a lesser extent northern Delaware and that's it. Baltimore is a completely separate and different area that never had a notable mafia presence. Baltimore doesn't have a "traditionally large" Italian population btw so I don't know what you are trying to say.
I believe this correct

AC was fought over between NYC and Philly back and forth

Trenton at times too dont know of any Baltimore influence

Philly had more connections to NYC and even Chicago (Miami to lesser extent) than it did to Baltimore
 
Old 09-22-2014, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Not true at all. Please tell me you didn't get that from a crappy Wikipedia article. The Philly mafia has only ever had activity in the Philly/South Jersey area and to a lesser extent northern Delaware and that's it. Baltimore is a completely separate and different area that never had a notable mafia presence. Baltimore doesn't have a "traditionally large" Italian population btw so I don't know what you are trying to say.
Baltimore and Philly are practically the same city. Anything that could be said about Baltimore could be said about Philly and vice versa. Culturally, they are exactly the same.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Not true at all. Please tell me you didn't get that from a crappy Wikipedia article. The Philly mafia has only ever had activity in the Philly/South Jersey area and to a lesser extent northern Delaware and that's it. Baltimore is a completely separate and different area that never had a notable mafia presence. Baltimore doesn't have a "traditionally large" Italian population btw so I don't know what you are trying to say.
Of course Baltimore' Italian immigration wasn't as large as the other Northern cities but certainly large enough to form their own ethnic neighborhoods like you see in other cities with large Italian populations. I don't know why some people are so quick to downplay the Italian American history of Baltimore. Baltimore having a large number of Ethnic Whites is one of things the city has more in common with Northern cities than it dies with Southern cities.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Of course Baltimore' Italian immigration wasn't as large as the other Northern cities but certainly large enough to form their own ethnic neighborhoods like you see in other cities with large Italian populations. I don't know why some people are so quick to downplay the Italian American history of Baltimore. Baltimore having a large number of Ethnic Whites is one of things the city has more in common with Northern cities than it dies with Southern cities.
Same is true of NOLA though. It's more Italian than Baltimore.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Same is true of NOLA though. It's more Italian than Baltimore.
New Orleans is an exception to the rule. It's a unique area that's not really like the rest of the country despite being located in the Deep South. I've said this many times.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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New Orleans is an exception to the rule. It's a unique area that's not really like the rest of the country despite being located in the Deep South. I've said this many times.
Baltimore was also an exception to the rule.

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Baltimore has been described as a sleepy southern town and a commercial-industrial center. Its many nicknames include “Charm City” and “Mob Town.” With cities to the south, it shares longstanding trade routes, a relaxed pace of life, and a history deeply informed by slavery, Jim Crow, and the cultural influence of a centuries-old African American population. With cities to the north, it shares a history of industrialization (and deindustrialization) along with the ethnic diversity that comes from being a major port of immigration.
400 Years of History | Baltimore National Heritage Area
 
Old 09-22-2014, 05:09 PM
 
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Maybe New Orleans French culture is more dominant that all others.
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