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Old 10-04-2015, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Maine
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DC at 120 vs 81 last year. +48.1%
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Chicago has 58 murders and 357 shooting victims from Sep 1-Sep 29. 3rd world stats this month.

Just as an FYI - the official stats only go to 9/23 and the total was 46. Still a lot - definitely one of the worst months in recent history (i.e. a decade). A lot of people will talk about "Tale of two cities" and it absolutely is. Here's an illustration using 2015's numbers.




As of 9/23, there's officially 363 recorded homicides.

* Of the 77 community areas in the city, 29 so far this year have recorded either 0 or 1 homicide each. The total count for this is 13 homicides for where 802,065 people (2010 Census numbers) live. That is a homicide rate of 1.62 per 100K for a section of the city about the population of San Francisco (2010 numbers again).

* 50% of the homicides for the year in the city have occurred where only 19.5% of the population lives. This is a population of 510,398. This is about the size of Tucson, AZ with a homicide rate of 35.5 per 100K. Even so, this rate is comparable to the likes of St. Louis and Baltimore, and still lower than New Orleans and Detroit.

* 75.8% of the homicides for the year in the city have occurred where 41% of the population lives. That population totals 1,107,229 or a little less than Dallas. That's a homicide rate of 24.8 per 100K. Still less than Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, and St. Louis.

* Going from the last statistic, the remaining 24.2% of homicides have occurred where 69% of the population of the city lives. That population is 1,588,317, or a little larger than Philadelphia. The homicide rate of that section is 5.5 per 100k


So on one hand, we have a section the size of Philadephia with a homicide rate similar to NYC and lower than the likes of Charlotte, Denver, LA, Phoenix, San Francisco, Boston, etc but yet there's another chunk with a population almost like Dallas with a rate of 24.8 per 100k which is more like Kansas City, Stockton, Cleveland, Memphis. You can see how these sharply contrast.

Also even in some of the highest recording neighborhoods, there are still big swaths of land where not much has been reported. Austin (the neighborhood, not the city) has the most recorded homicides this year with 34 (9.4% of the entire city's total, but less than 4% of the city lives in this area) but west of one street, 4 have been recorded and south of the expressway there's been nothing. The total number of people who live in that area is 36,804 of the area's total 98,514 people. Meaning that almost 90% of the area's homicides have occurred where 62.6% of the population of that area lives.
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Old 10-07-2015, 12:09 AM
 
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Why is Pittsburgh so dangerous? I still don't get it. Much higher murder rate than I would expect...22.9?
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Old 10-07-2015, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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Just as an FYI - the official stats only go to 9/23 and the total was 46. Still a lot - definitely one of the worst months in recent history (i.e. a decade). A lot of people will talk about "Tale of two cities" and it absolutely is. Here's an illustration using 2015's numbers.




As of 9/23, there's officially 363 recorded homicides.

* Of the 77 community areas in the city, 29 so far this year have recorded either 0 or 1 homicide each. The total count for this is 13 homicides for where 802,065 people (2010 Census numbers) live. That is a homicide rate of 1.62 per 100K for a section of the city about the population of San Francisco (2010 numbers again).

* 50% of the homicides for the year in the city have occurred where only 19.5% of the population lives. This is a population of 510,398. This is about the size of Tucson, AZ with a homicide rate of 35.5 per 100K. Even so, this rate is comparable to the likes of St. Louis and Baltimore, and still lower than New Orleans and Detroit.

* 75.8% of the homicides for the year in the city have occurred where 41% of the population lives. That population totals 1,107,229 or a little less than Dallas. That's a homicide rate of 24.8 per 100K. Still less than Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, and St. Louis.

* Going from the last statistic, the remaining 24.2% of homicides have occurred where 69% of the population of the city lives. That population is 1,588,317, or a little larger than Philadelphia. The homicide rate of that section is 5.5 per 100k


So on one hand, we have a section the size of Philadephia with a homicide rate similar to NYC and lower than the likes of Charlotte, Denver, LA, Phoenix, San Francisco, Boston, etc but yet there's another chunk with a population almost like Dallas with a rate of 24.8 per 100k which is more like Kansas City, Stockton, Cleveland, Memphis. You can see how these sharply contrast.

Also even in some of the highest recording neighborhoods, there are still big swaths of land where not much has been reported. Austin (the neighborhood, not the city) has the most recorded homicides this year with 34 (9.4% of the entire city's total, but less than 4% of the city lives in this area) but west of one street, 4 have been recorded and south of the expressway there's been nothing. The total number of people who live in that area is 36,804 of the area's total 98,514 people. Meaning that almost 90% of the area's homicides have occurred where 62.6% of the population of that area lives.
Couldn't give you a rep but good job in explaining Chicago's homicide rate. This is a great counter-post to people making hyperbolic statements about the crime in Chicago.
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Old 10-07-2015, 01:08 AM
 
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Just as an FYI - the official stats only go to 9/23 and the total was 46. Still a lot - definitely one of the worst months in recent history (i.e. a decade). A lot of people will talk about "Tale of two cities" and it absolutely is. Here's an illustration using 2015's numbers.




As of 9/23, there's officially 363 recorded homicides.

* Of the 77 community areas in the city, 29 so far this year have recorded either 0 or 1 homicide each. The total count for this is 13 homicides for where 802,065 people (2010 Census numbers) live. That is a homicide rate of 1.62 per 100K for a section of the city about the population of San Francisco (2010 numbers again).

* 50% of the homicides for the year in the city have occurred where only 19.5% of the population lives. This is a population of 510,398. This is about the size of Tucson, AZ with a homicide rate of 35.5 per 100K. Even so, this rate is comparable to the likes of St. Louis and Baltimore, and still lower than New Orleans and Detroit.

* 75.8% of the homicides for the year in the city have occurred where 41% of the population lives. That population totals 1,107,229 or a little less than Dallas. That's a homicide rate of 24.8 per 100K. Still less than Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, and St. Louis.

* Going from the last statistic, the remaining 24.2% of homicides have occurred where 69% of the population of the city lives. That population is 1,588,317, or a little larger than Philadelphia. The homicide rate of that section is 5.5 per 100k


So on one hand, we have a section the size of Philadephia with a homicide rate similar to NYC and lower than the likes of Charlotte, Denver, LA, Phoenix, San Francisco, Boston, etc but yet there's another chunk with a population almost like Dallas with a rate of 24.8 per 100k which is more like Kansas City, Stockton, Cleveland, Memphis. You can see how these sharply contrast.

Also even in some of the highest recording neighborhoods, there are still big swaths of land where not much has been reported. Austin (the neighborhood, not the city) has the most recorded homicides this year with 34 (9.4% of the entire city's total, but less than 4% of the city lives in this area) but west of one street, 4 have been recorded and south of the expressway there's been nothing. The total number of people who live in that area is 36,804 of the area's total 98,514 people. Meaning that almost 90% of the area's homicides have occurred where 62.6% of the population of that area lives.

But this is with any city. Like, this is not unique to Chicago at all. All cities have their very safe and very dangerous areas. Crime still spills over. Higher crime cities have higher spillover. That's just natural statistics. There's no excuse for the high crime in Chicago period. I'm tired of hearing this from Chicago posters. You don't see posters from Detroit, St. Louis, Baltimore posting this stuff.
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Old 10-07-2015, 03:08 AM
 
Location: Seattle aka tier 3 city :)
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Just as an FYI - the official stats only go to 9/23 and the total was 46. Still a lot - definitely one of the worst months in recent history (i.e. a decade). A lot of people will talk about "Tale of two cities" and it absolutely is. Here's an illustration using 2015's numbers.




As of 9/23, there's officially 363 recorded homicides.

* Of the 77 community areas in the city, 29 so far this year have recorded either 0 or 1 homicide each. The total count for this is 13 homicides for where 802,065 people (2010 Census numbers) live. That is a homicide rate of 1.62 per 100K for a section of the city about the population of San Francisco (2010 numbers again).

* 50% of the homicides for the year in the city have occurred where only 19.5% of the population lives. This is a population of 510,398. This is about the size of Tucson, AZ with a homicide rate of 35.5 per 100K. Even so, this rate is comparable to the likes of St. Louis and Baltimore, and still lower than New Orleans and Detroit.

* 75.8% of the homicides for the year in the city have occurred where 41% of the population lives. That population totals 1,107,229 or a little less than Dallas. That's a homicide rate of 24.8 per 100K. Still less than Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, and St. Louis.

* Going from the last statistic, the remaining 24.2% of homicides have occurred where 69% of the population of the city lives. That population is 1,588,317, or a little larger than Philadelphia. The homicide rate of that section is 5.5 per 100k


So on one hand, we have a section the size of Philadephia with a homicide rate similar to NYC and lower than the likes of Charlotte, Denver, LA, Phoenix, San Francisco, Boston, etc but yet there's another chunk with a population almost like Dallas with a rate of 24.8 per 100k which is more like Kansas City, Stockton, Cleveland, Memphis. You can see how these sharply contrast.

Also even in some of the highest recording neighborhoods, there are still big swaths of land where not much has been reported. Austin (the neighborhood, not the city) has the most recorded homicides this year with 34 (9.4% of the entire city's total, but less than 4% of the city lives in this area) but west of one street, 4 have been recorded and south of the expressway there's been nothing. The total number of people who live in that area is 36,804 of the area's total 98,514 people. Meaning that almost 90% of the area's homicides have occurred where 62.6% of the population of that area lives.
This is true for all cities, you think this is somehow unique to Chicago? There's no need to try diminishing Chicago's appalling murder rate, this is no different than sticking your head in the sand.
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Old 10-07-2015, 09:27 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Indianapolis is up to at least 101 on the year.

Indianapolis' 100th criminal homicide racks Westside neighborhood
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Old 10-07-2015, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Couldn't give you a rep but good job in explaining Chicago's homicide rate. This is a great counter-post to people making hyperbolic statements about the crime in Chicago.
How is that a great point when this applies to virtually any city?
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Old 10-07-2015, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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You don't see posters from Detroit, St. Louis, Baltimore posting this stuff.
St. Louis has a murder rate 4x the time of Chicago, maybe that's why. Even the "nicer" southside has quite a bit of crappy parts. Dutchtown, Bevo Mill, Mount Pleasant, Gravois Park and Marine Villa combined have a 51.2/100k rate, and those areas make up a pretty big chunk of the city's southside.
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Old 10-07-2015, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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How is that a great point when this applies to virtually any city?
People talk about how much of a bloodbath Chicago is in the news, which statistically isn't true, but shear number wise it is up par with large cities around the world.
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