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How do you figure? The Los Angeles urban area has nearly twice the density and 3x the population of the DMV.
2010 Urban Area
Los Angeles: 14.7 million, 6,300ppsm
DMV: 4.89 million, 3500ppsm
Outside of the downtown DC area (by day), Los Angeles feels noticeably busier all over.
Your stats on DC are wrong...but you got LA's right, you biased. Google "dc metro area population" and you'll see it's 5.8 million. To be honest If we are comparing SoCal to that part of the mid atlantic then we should compare SoCal to the Baltimore-Washington corridor, Baltimore+it's suburbs being orange county. Then we would have an accurate comparison.
Your stats on DC are wrong...but you got LA's right, you biased. Google "dc metro area population" and you'll see it's 5.8 million. To be honest If we are comparing SoCal to that part of the mid atlantic then we should compare SoCal to the Baltimore-Washington corridor, Baltimore+it's suburbs being orange county. Then we would have an accurate comparison.
Sure... But if you include that I think we would be able to include the Inland Empire, boosting the population total even higher, to around 18 million. And it would still be so much more densely populated than DC+Baltimore - in fact I bet Baltimore and its suburbs lowers the density.
Your stats on DC are wrong...but you got LA's right, you biased. Google "dc metro area population" and you'll see it's 5.8 million. To be honest If we are comparing SoCal to that part of the mid atlantic then we should compare SoCal to the Baltimore-Washington corridor, Baltimore+it's suburbs being orange county. Then we would have an accurate comparison.
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Metro and urban areas are two totally different things. Metro areas are based on county limits and commuter rates between them, whereas urban areas are calculated using contiguous development. UAs are far more effective at gauging the true size of a city.
The DC urban footprint is home to 5 million people, it is clear-as-friggin-day smaller and less dense than LA. Explain to the class how LA is the more desolate of the two.
OP has a limited vocabulary. I think by desolate he/she meant "run down."
Sure, I would concede that of the two, Southern California is the more gritty or run down. In the suburbs (outside of those occasional TOD nodes), DC has a country-fried vibe while in LA's suburbs are often just as dense as inner city city neighborhoods.
Your stats on DC are wrong...but you got LA's right, you biased. Google "dc metro area population" and you'll see it's 5.8 million. To be honest If we are comparing SoCal to that part of the mid atlantic then we should compare SoCal to the Baltimore-Washington corridor, Baltimore+it's suburbs being orange county. Then we would have an accurate comparison.
Let's not include Baltimore to pad DC's number. We're in a separate metropolitan area.
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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There are a lot of things that the DMV area has advantage over LA, transit, better schools (on all levels), quality of living, higher paying jobs, more educated work force, centralized EC location bordering two major regions of the U.S., rather than being "stuck in SoCal" and a plane ride away from the next region, you can just drive two hours north or south. Traffic in LA is worse and the region is too spread out to consider a "city" it's almost a small country as widespread as Los Angeles region is. There is very little cohesion in those far flung areas of LA just massive amounts of sprawl, which does not make a city/metro "better."
With that said Los Angeles by most people's opinion will probably considered "better" simply in the eyes of the media. That city is marketed to be a "destination" type of place where they market DC as a "government town" although that is not hardly all the DC metro area brings to the table since it is one of the more diverse metros with LA included. Even more diverse than places like Chicago etc.
The DC area is a top 5 metro, LA is obviously larger, but let's not act like as a whole DC's metro doesn't punch well above its weight because it does.
There are a lot of things that the DMV area has advantage over LA, transit, better schools (on all levels), quality of living, higher paying jobs, more educated work force, centralized EC location bordering two major regions of the U.S., rather than being "stuck in SoCal" and a plane ride away from the next region, you can just drive two hours north or south. Traffic in LA is worse and the region is too spread out to consider a "city" it's almost a small country as widespread as Los Angeles region is. There is very little cohesion in those far flung areas of LA just massive amounts of sprawl, which does not make a city/metro "better."
With that said Los Angeles by most people's opinion will probably considered "better" simply in the eyes of the media. That city is marketed to be a "destination" type of place where they market DC as a "government town" although that is not hardly all the DC metro area brings to the table since it is one of the more diverse metros with LA included. Even more diverse than places like Chicago etc.
The DC area is a top 5 metro, LA is obviously larger, but let's not act like as a whole DC's metro doesn't punch well above its weight because it does.
The LA CSA is smaller than both New York's and Chicago, do you consider those small countries as well? When residents have to throw in "within 3 hours drive you can get to insert city" it doesn't bode well for what your city has to offer IMO.
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The LA CSA is smaller than both New York's and Chicago, do you consider those small countries as well?
1. LA CSA is almost twice the size of Chicago
2. Those metro areas are both more dense, and more importantly have way better transit, a la DC. In fact NY, Chi, DC are probably the top 3 metro areas in the country in transit, LA is currently way behind each.
When you say "DMV" I think Department of Motor Vehicles.
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