Which feels bigger, Sea-Tac or Twin Cities? (Chicago, skyscrapers, difference)
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By "a long way?" Why, specifically? They have a very similar feel to everyone but you. Have you ever been to the Twin Cities?
Yeah they really don't have a similar feel at all. Minneapolis reminds me much more of Denver.
And Portland feels more big city than both of them to me.
And Seattle in a league of its own.
Yeah they really don't have a similar feel at all. Minneapolis reminds me much more of Denver.
And Portland feels more big city than both of them to me.
And Seattle in a league of its own.
Portland's land area is larger than Minneapolis and St. Paul combined. Perhaps that is the reason why it, in your words, feels more big.
BTW, both Denver and Minneapolis are better than Portland, which is by far one of the most overrated US cities.
Yeah, the majority of that 75% have never been to Minneapolis.
BTW, downtown Seattle does not have way more people on the streets. Yes, there are the tourist areas, but aside from those spots and places where the homeless hang out, downtown Seattle is surprisingly dead after 6pm.
Where are they pulling transit riders from? Both MSP light rail lines have already exceeded 2030 ridership goals.
Also, Seattle has about 10% more tall buildings which doesn't really strike me as "way more" either....
Where are these way more tourist claims coming from? The Mall of America parking ramps are full of out of state plates this time of year. I did not find Seattle or Minneapolis in the top tourist attractions on any Google searches.
Minneapolis has way more affordable housing and still has a high paying economy that is more diversified than Seattle.
Minneapolis is more literate (slightly) than Seattle.
Everything I have seen shows Minneapolis has better theater, comedy, and arts than Seattle.
Some of the arguments are as good as me asking about that giant earthquake that is overdue and going to obliterate Seattle.
Yeah they really don't have a similar feel at all. Minneapolis reminds me much more of Denver.
And Portland feels more big city than both of them to me.
And Seattle in a league of its own.
Coming from someone who spent part his youth growing up in Denver I can say they are hardly alike. Minneapolis would be more comparable to Chicago than Denver.
Coming from someone who spent part his youth growing up in Denver I can say they are hardly alike. Minneapolis would be more comparable to Chicago than Denver.
Huh? This poll is about how big a city feels... Don't think Minneapolis and Chicago can be used in the same sentence there...
Where are these way more tourist claims coming from? The Mall of America parking ramps are full of out of state plates this time of year. I did not find Seattle or Minneapolis in the top tourist attractions on any Google searches.
Took me about two minutes to find these on google. I could keep going but I'd rather not.
Huh? This poll is about how big a city feels... Don't think Minneapolis and Chicago can be used in the same sentence there...
Layouts and influence.
Aren't you the one who went off topic comparing Denver to Minneapolis anyway?
Minneapolis MSA does cover more square miles than Seattle. Further Minneapolis-St Paul combine for both higher population and square mileage. That would "feel" bigger to me.
Where are they pulling transit riders from? Both MSP light rail lines have already exceeded 2030 ridership goals.
Also, Seattle has about 10% more tall buildings which doesn't really strike me as "way more" either....
Where are these way more tourist claims coming from? The Mall of America parking ramps are full of out of state plates this time of year. I did not find Seattle or Minneapolis in the top tourist attractions on any Google searches.
Minneapolis has way more affordable housing and still has a high paying economy that is more diversified than Seattle.
Minneapolis is more literate (slightly) than Seattle.
Everything I have seen shows Minneapolis has better theater, comedy, and arts than Seattle.
Some of the arguments are as good as me asking about that giant earthquake that is overdue and going to obliterate Seattle.
MSP transit ridership has exceeded its own goals. So you're comparing MSP transit to MSP transit (pointless). You can pull ridership numbers for almost every transit agency and mode at the link below:
As you will see, Seattle has multiples more transit riders than greater Minneapolis, and if you really dig in and add all the Puget Sound agencies (ferries included - some 50K+ people commute around Seattle/Puget Sound via ferry) to all the MSP agencies, it's not even close.
Likewise, Seattle is in the midst of quite an ambitious rail transit expansion. So while MSP is doing the same and has a couple LRT lines and has exceeded its own goals, it is more in line with a Denver in terms of ridership, perhaps even less than Denver (Denver actually has one of the most ambitious rail plans underway in the country).
Regarding what you consider a tall building or not, Seattle could have *way* more or not way more. I travel a lot and Seattle strikes me as a relatively tall city. It has buildings considerably taller than Minneapolis.
Minneapolis has
792 ft
775
774
668
579
561
539
504
And around 19 buildings < 400 ft with [none] under construction that are that tall, as of now.
And around 27 buildings > 400 ft with a 630 footer under construction, as well as a 530 footer, the two Amazon Buildings at 521/523 ft (one nearly finished) and a string of around 10 buildings in the 400-500 ft range under construction.
Regarding all of your other rants, I have also heard Minneapolis is one of the top cities for theater and the arts, and I know it's highly literate and has a diversified economy, probably more diversified than Seattle/Puget Sound's, and maybe more literate, not likely more college educated but probably close. Regardless, highly irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Study: Twin Cities Visitors And Tourism Spending Up In 2013
Twin Cities’ 29.4 million visitors came in behind Chicago’s 2013 tally of 48.4 million. Dallas, meanwhile, had about 44 million visitors—giving it a slight edge over the Twin Cities as well. However, the Twin Cities had more visitors than Indianapolis (26 million), Kansas City (22.3 million), St. Louis (21.6 million), Denver (13.6 million), New Orleans (9.3 million), and Milwaukee (7 million), according to Meet Minneapolis.
A Total of 10.2 million visitors came through King County Last year, and 20 percent of them were international tourists, According to Visit Seattle's 2013 annual report . One-quarter of the Foreign visitors came from China, just behind Japan, but Ahead of the UK , Korea, Germany, France and Australia.
Based on that alone you are blown out the water. I didn't expect to see 3x the tourists coming to MSP.
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