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Old 09-16-2016, 12:58 AM
 
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6 of one, half a dozen of the other. ATL and DFW are very auto-centric metros with tiny pockets where everyday life is possible without a car. Public transportation sucks donkey balls in both places. We are in the narcissism of small differences here, fighting over who is the tallest midget.Carry on ...
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Old 09-16-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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More data as of Q3 of this year from the Federal Transit Administration:

https://www.transit.dot.gov/ntd/data...w-data-release

Daily public transit trips across all agencies in Metro Atlanta: 554,082
Daily public transit trips across all agencies in Dallas-Ft. Worth: 301,332
Difference = Metro Atlanta +252,750 per day, or 46% more daily public transportation trips than Dallas/Ft Worth

Daily public transit trips just in the City of Atlanta: 528,924
Daily public transit trips just in the City of Dallas: 267,982
Difference = City of Atlanta +260,942, 50% more daily public transportation trips than the City of Dallas

Size of the City of Dallas = 340 square miles, 1.3 million residents
Size of the City of Atlanta = 133 square miles, 463,000 residents

These aren't trivial numbers or even close, Atlanta has hundreds of thousands of more daily public transit users than Dallas and does it in a smaller city area. While Atlanta is far behind some cities, only eight other cities in the country have more daily public transit usage than Atlanta and Dallas isn't one of them. Far from it actually.

And while Atlanta as a whole is dominated by the car (only a few cities aren't), very clearly "someone" is using public transit in Atlanta. Quite a large amount of "them."

Now we may close this thread.

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Old 09-18-2016, 09:40 PM
 
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More data as of Q3 of this year from the Federal Transit Administration:

https://www.transit.dot.gov/ntd/data...w-data-release

Daily public transit trips across all agencies in Metro Atlanta: 554,082
Daily public transit trips across all agencies in Dallas-Ft. Worth: 301,332
Difference = Metro Atlanta +252,750 per day, or 46% more daily public transportation trips than Dallas/Ft Worth

Daily public transit trips just in the City of Atlanta: 528,924
Daily public transit trips just in the City of Dallas: 267,982
Difference = City of Atlanta +260,942, 50% more daily public transportation trips than the City of Dallas

Size of the City of Dallas = 340 square miles, 1.3 million residents
Size of the City of Atlanta = 133 square miles, 463,000 residents

These aren't trivial numbers or even close, Atlanta has hundreds of thousands of more daily public transit users than Dallas and does it in a smaller city area. While Atlanta is far behind some cities, only eight other cities in the country have more daily public transit usage than Atlanta and Dallas isn't one of them. Far from it actually.

And while Atlanta as a whole is dominated by the car (only a few cities aren't), very clearly "someone" is using public transit in Atlanta. Quite a large amount of "them."

Now we may close this thread.
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Old 09-18-2016, 09:52 PM
 
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Atlanta is just as sprawled as Dallas. I mean give me a break.
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Old 09-18-2016, 09:54 PM
 
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6 of one, half a dozen of the other. ATL and DFW are very auto-centric metros with tiny pockets where everyday life is possible without a car. Public transportation sucks donkey balls in both places. We are in the narcissism of small differences here, fighting over who is the tallest midget.Carry on ...
Yall repeat the obvious that both are car centric but if you don't know the difference,then you don't know MARTA
If you can get to one side of the city to the other side,from the East to West and North and South on a subway then ride a bus in between,then those are not small pockets of the city.Its the majority of the city.
The problem is the in between areas.
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Old 09-18-2016, 09:56 PM
 
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Atlanta is just as sprawled as Dallas. I mean give me a break.
And who has said anything different?
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Old 09-18-2016, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yall repeat the obvious that both are car centric but if you don't know the difference,then you don't know MARTA
If you can get to one side of the city to the other side,from the East to West and North and South on a subway then ride a bus in between,then those are not small pockets of the city.Its the majority of the city.
The problem is the in between areas.
Why does it matter if you use a subway or a largely elevated light rail?
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Old 09-18-2016, 11:21 PM
 
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Why does it matter if you use a subway or a largely elevated light rail?
Did you read any of the last pages of data that show how much faster,more and efficiently heavy rail is compared to light rail?
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City of Atlanta +260,942, 50% more daily public transportation trips than the City of Dallas
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Old 09-18-2016, 11:49 PM
 
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And who has said anything different?
The OP. That was the whole point of the thread to begin with.
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Old 09-19-2016, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Did you read any of the last pages of data that show how much faster,more and efficiently heavy rail is compared to light rail?
I responded before by saying that it does not reflect efficiency and differences in usage can stem from a variety of differences.
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