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The OP. That was the whole point of the thread to begin with.
Thats not what he wsa getting at.He said specifically said they were sprawling cities BUT Atlanta seems to nhave been curbing that sprawl much better in recent years.At least thats how understood what he was saying.
Especially in its suburbs where mixed urban developments are everywhere or they are building actual city centers where there was none before.Smart growth in the suburbs has been occurring for years. Atlanta sprawl has drastically slowed.
Cumberland Area of Cobb County new Braves Stadium development.Its not just a stadium but a mixed use development like none other ive seen.
Sandy Springs is building a "downtown"
Woodstock already built a new downtown from the ground up more than 4 years ago.
Pinewood Forest that is being built adjacent to the huge movie studios of Pinewood will change the Southside forever.
Its being developed by the Cathy family of Chick-fil-A
Pinewood Studios currently
Dont want to forget "Aeorotropolis".Basically a vibrant city near the airport.
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Airport City Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport (ATL) is planning to develop a mixed-use development, including a 4-star InterContinental hotel, class-A office space, and travel plaza adjacent to the airport’s main domestic terminal and MARTA station.
Here are the first components of what already there like Porshe N.A. Headquarters and currently rising out of the ground is an upscale Soliel Hotel.
So these just some of the projects that encourage smart growth and why Atlanta has been mentioned as the "turn around sprawl city poster child" in many articles.
Thats not what he wsa getting at.He said specifically said they were sprawling cities BUT Atlanta seems to nhave been curbing that sprawl much better in recent years.At least thats how understood what he was saying.
So these just some of the projects that encourage smart growth and why Atlanta has been mentioned as the "turn around sprawl city poster child" in many articles.
Every picture you posted looks like typical auto-oriented suburban sprawl. I'm not exactly getting the point.
Is there a city on the planet more sprawly than Atlanta? Even one? I doubt it. There are many American cities in the same general league, but you can't really get much more sprawly/auto oriented than Atlanta.
Funny this thread is still going. Its like arguing which is colder: North Dakota or South Dakota. North Dakota is colder but they are both extremely cold. Same with Atlanta and Dallas both being car centric.
Yes, exactly. This is the main-takeaway.
Atlanta and Dallas are have essentially the same degree of relative auto orientation. If one city is 4% transit riders, and the other 6% transit riders, that isn't a substantive difference.
Every picture you posted looks like typical auto-oriented suburban sprawl. I'm not exactly getting the point.
Is there a city on the planet more sprawl than Atlanta? Even one? I doubt it. There are many American cities in the same general league, but you can't really get much more sprawly/auto oriented than Atlanta.
LOL.Yes because 6-10 story buildings around squares of a mix of town homes,apartments, retail,and parks with wide sidewalks bicycle lanes and walking trails are just SOO SUBURBAN.
For someone who hates Atlanta,you sure stay in the Atlanta threads a lot with your erroneous post.
OK I can see their is a comprehension issue so just for you Ill back up.
Those are in the SUBURBS.NOT the city.These developments are counteracting sprawl because they are URBAN CLUSTERS within different areas of the metro.This is called " smart growth" as there is no continued overbuilding that is spreading further out.That kinda of building in mass has essentially been halted in Atlanta and has stopped for almost a decade now.
Suburbs are essentially densify-ing and creating urbanity within outlying areas
People like you are not in the know but think you are ,are living off old articles of Atlanta "sprawlf the 90's.
Look.This is America.No development will not have parking for cars in 90% of the country.PERIOD.You should move because it aint gonna change.
A report finds Atlanta's development patterns are changing. A study of real estate deals finds strong preference for communities where people can walk around. Sprawl is over, the report's author says.
Since 2009, 60 percent of new office, retail and rental properties in Atlanta have been built in what Christopher Leinberger calls "walkable urban places" – those neighborhoods already blessed by high Walk Scores or on their way there. That new construction has taken place on less than 1 percent of the metropolitan Atlanta region's land mass, suggesting a shift in real estate patterns from expansion at the city's edges to denser development within its existing borders.
Atlanta and Dallas are have essentially the same degree of relative auto orientation. If one city is 4% transit riders, and the other 6% transit riders, that isn't a substantive difference.
Yes if that was the case but the data shows its a much bigger difference but I see numbers are only good when you use them,not others.
LOL.Yes because 6-10 story buildings around squares of a mix of town homes,apartments, retail,and parks with wide sidewalks bicycle lanes and walking trails are just SOO SUBURBAN.
Generally speaking, yes. That sounds pretty suburban to me. Sounds like typical sprawly office parks.
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Originally Posted by Othello Is Here
For someone who hates Atlanta,you sure stay in the Atlanta threads a lot with your erroneous post.
A. I don't hate Atlanta; I do dislike homers and people who reject actual data, though.
B. This isn't an "Atlanta thread". This isn't even the Atlanta forum.
C. I'm not sure if I've ever commented in the Atlanta forum, so no.
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Originally Posted by Othello Is Here
Those are in the SUBURBS.NOT the city.These developments are counteracting sprawl because they are URBAN CLUSTERS within different areas of the metro.This is called " smart growth" as there is no continued overbuilding that is spreading further out.That kinda of building in mass has essentially been halted in Atlanta and has stopped for almost a decade now.
I have no idea what any of this means. It's all sprawly suburban growth, in Atlanta suburbs.
Whether or not you want to attach a "smart growth" label to something because it's a typical sprawly office park but they built a bike trail or there's a bus stop or a electric charging station, fine by me. It's still sprawl.
An "urban cluster" wouldn't have tons of free parking. It really shouldn't have any parking. It should be built around pedestrians and transit, not SUV riders. There is nothing really truly traditionally urban being built anywhere in Atlanta.
Yes if that was the case but the data shows its a much bigger difference but I see numbers are only good when you use them,not others.
No, actually the numbers show that Dallas and Atlanta are virtually indistinguishable.
They are both massively car-oriented, and they both have very few transit riders. In both cases, there are very few cities on the planet with similar car orientation. Probably none outside the U.S.
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f the 90's.
