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View Poll Results: Which region deviates more from the typical South?
South Florida 107 59.78%
South Texas 51 28.49%
Tie: Both deviate to the same extent 16 8.94%
I don't know 5 2.79%
Voters: 179. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-11-2016, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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If we are including Victoria that cements my point. We even have a poster from Victoria, jtur88. Victoria might as well be Lafayette and I have been to both places. Of course that is an exaggeration but the bucees playing country music (50% fake/ 50% real), proves it.
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Old 06-12-2016, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Clutch City
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South Texas has a borderline semi-arid climate, where even places like Brownsville on the coast average less than 30 inches of rain annually. That place is a desert jungle, an environment as far from the typical southern landscape as you can get:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browns..._Texas#Climate
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Dallas,TX
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South Texas has a borderline semi-arid climate, where even places like Brownsville on the coast average less than 30 inches of rain annually. That place is a desert jungle, an environment as far from the typical southern landscape as you can get:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browns..._Texas#Climate

Again, depends on what part of South Texas. Corpus Christi is NOT semi arid. It has a humid subtropical climate just like the rest of the Gulf Coast. Unless you don't consider the Gulf the south, it is not far from a typical southern landscape.

People need to realize that South Texas is more than Brownsville and the RGV.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Clutch City
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Again, depends on what part of South Texas. Corpus Christi is NOT semi arid. It has a humid subtropical climate just like the rest of the Gulf Coast. Unless you don't consider the Gulf the south, it is not far from a typical southern landscape.

People need to realize that South Texas is more than Brownsville and the RGV.
Corpus Christi is quite semi-arid itself; look at how dry it is annually compared to places like Houston, New Orleans, Savannah, etc. It gets less rainfall annually than even Austin or Dallas!

Corpus and Brownsville, while Humid Subtropical, definitely have influences of aridity in their climate; nowhere else in the South, save for the I-35 corridor in Texas (and parts of the Florida Keys to a lesser extent), have such influence in their climate. Go inland from Corpus, and you hit areas like Laredo, which is full-blown semi-arid.

The landscape of South Texas deviates heavily from the typical southern landscape: you have what is known as "desert jungle" along the coastal areas, that is, forest wherein the trees/vegetation yield heavily to aridity. Inland, the vegetation is full on semi-arid scrub. Lots of arid/desert plants like yucca and mesquite, are featured heavily throughout the region. As a final twist, cultivated areas in the southern portions of South Texas feature prominent tropical vegetation (though not to the extent of South Florida). Many of the plants and animals seen in the region give it a likeness more to Northern Mexico than the rest of the South. I mean, what typical southern landscape has these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collared_peccary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Coast_jaguarundi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_jay
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Dallas,TX
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Corpus Christi is quite semi-arid itself; look at how dry it is annually compared to places like Houston, New Orleans, Savannah, etc. It gets less rainfall annually than even Austin or Dallas!

Corpus and Brownsville, while Humid Subtropical, definitely have influences of aridity in their climate; nowhere else in the South, save for the I-35 corridor in Texas (and parts of the Florida Keys to a lesser extent), have such influence in their climate. Go inland from Corpus, and you hit areas like Laredo, which is full-blown semi-arid.

The landscape of South Texas deviates heavily from the typical southern landscape: you have what is known as "desert jungle" along the coastal areas, that is, forest wherein the trees/vegetation yield heavily to aridity. Inland, the vegetation is full on semi-arid scrub. Lots of arid/desert plants like yucca and mesquite, are featured heavily throughout the region. As a final twist, cultivated areas in the southern portions of South Texas feature prominent tropical vegetation (though not to the extent of South Florida). Many of the plants and animals seen in the region give it a likeness more to Northern Mexico than the rest of the South. I mean, what typical southern landscape has these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collared_peccary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Coast_jaguarundi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_jay
Corpus Christi's rainfall amount does not have as much influence on the landscape as you're suggesting. The landscape in parts of South Texas is dominated by agriculture similar to the South, like cotton. My grandparents met picking cotton. You cannot tell me that is not Southern.

I just want to ask, have you been to South Texas before?
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Clutch City
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Corpus Christi's rainfall amount does not have as much influence on the landscape as you're suggesting. The landscape in parts of South Texas is dominated by agriculture similar to the South, like cotton. My grandparents met picking cotton. You cannot tell me that is not Southern.
Cotton growing is a traditionally Southern cultivation culture, yes, but not if its being done with heavy irrigation, like it is in many areas of South Texas.

So, again, tell me where this can be seen in the typical South:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jtwill...7622783439303/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jtwill...7622783439303/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jtwill...7622783439303/


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I just want to ask, have you been to South Texas before?
Yes, every corner, from San Antonio, to Corpus Christi, to the RGV, to Del Rio.
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Old 06-12-2016, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Clutch City
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Hard to consider a place even close to being southern when it has an annual Sombrero Festival, and lined with cities that form international metros with neighboring locales in Mexico:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH8AyKty3lc
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Old 06-12-2016, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Dallas,TX
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Cotton growing is a traditionally Southern cultivation culture, yes, but not if its being done with heavy irrigation, like it is in many areas of South Texas.

So, again, tell me where this can be seen in the typical South:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jtwill...7622783439303/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jtwill...7622783439303/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jtwill...7622783439303/




Yes, every corner, from San Antonio, to Corpus Christi, to the RGV, to Del Rio.

The cotton farm my grandparents worked at wasn't irrigated.

Those pictures you showed are just examples that the South is diverse in geography. The picture you showed from Calhoun County looks like it could be on any beach in the Gulf Coast. South Texas does not look like the "typical South" because it has a coastal geography.
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Old 06-12-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Clutch City
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The cotton farm my grandparents worked at wasn't irrigated.

Those pictures you showed are just examples that the South is diverse in geography. The picture you showed from Calhoun County looks like it could be on any beach in the Gulf Coast.
So yucca and agave typically grow on the southern Gulf Coast beaches? Who knew?


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South Texas does not look like the "typical South" because it has a coastal geography.
Explain this.
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Old 06-12-2016, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Dallas,TX
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So yucca and agave typically grow on the southern Gulf Coast beaches? Who knew?




Explain this.
Did I say that? No.

And what is there to explain? It's geography is coastal.
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