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Old 07-05-2016, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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There is no part of Buckhead I'd describe as anything close to gritty.
Buckhead Village. Look at the buildings, street lights, and the poor road condition compared to the others. It looks like the eastside neighborhoods.
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Old 07-05-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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Buckhead Village. Look at the buildings, street lights, and the poor road condition compared to the others. It looks like the eastside neighborhoods.
Exactly where in BV because I don't see it. I mean Buckhead Atlanta is in BV so that tells you about how "gritty" it is.
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Old 07-05-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Having wide sidewalks hardly makes one look like Chicago or New York. It makes you look like a walkable city. Like the majority of the rest of the world. No pedestrian is trying to compete with other cars on the same street. Not to mention, pedestrians aren't going to walk on disappearing sidewalks either consistently. You also don't need row homes to be urban though better use of land does help towards an urban environment.
Exactly. No one is trying to make Houston look like Chicago or NYC. I just want some damn sidewalks to walk on lol

There is so much potential here, but those sidewalks completely kill it:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ho...698028!6m1!1e1

And as you were saying, the random space of grass between the curb and the sidewalk. Pointless.
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4th Ward = Midtown? Are you talking about EaDo?
4th Ward connects to midtown. It's right outside of downtown, west of downtown across 45. Eado area is near 2nd Ward.
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Old 07-05-2016, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Exactly. No one is trying to make Houston look like Chicago or NYC. I just want some damn sidewalks to walk on lol

There is so much potential here, but those sidewalks completely kill it:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ho...698028!6m1!1e1

And as you were saying, the random space of grass between the curb and the sidewalk. Pointless.


4th Ward connects to midtown. It's right outside of downtown, west of downtown across 45. Eado area is near 2nd Ward.
Exactly. To be fair, since Gunion brought up Chicago, even they have developments like this in the city. But at least the sidewalks are wide throughout most of the city and they do not break up either.

For the purposes of this thread, here is Uptown Houston. Pay attention to the person on the bike on that sidewalk. While there should be at least a bike lane on Post Oak, look on narrow that sidewalk is? Everything about this is suburban but it's not a shock, look when it was built.
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7453...8i6656!6m1!1e1
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Old 07-05-2016, 03:36 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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Exactly. No one is trying to make Houston look like Chicago or NYC. I just want some damn sidewalks to walk on lol

There is so much potential here, but those sidewalks completely kill it:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ho...698028!6m1!1e1

And as you were saying, the random space of grass between the curb and the sidewalk. Pointless.


4th Ward connects to midtown. It's right outside of downtown, west of downtown across 45. Eado area is near 2nd Ward.
The sidewalks aren't the problem in that picture (I see nothing that seems unfriendly to pedestrians), but rather a lack of a reason to walk. I clicked around a few of the streets and saw no retail component. Since people need to purchase food and other goods on a nearly basis, their only option would be to jump in the car and drive to where they can do that. Without retail situated within a easily walkable distance. you could have 30 foot wide sidewalks on both sides of the street and it wouldn't make a difference.
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Old 07-05-2016, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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The sidewalks aren't the problem in that picture (I see nothing that seems unfriendly to pedestrians), but rather a lack of a reason to walk. I clicked around a few of the streets and saw no retail component. Since people need to purchase food and other goods on a nearly basis, their only option would be to jump in the car and drive to where they can do that. Without retail situated within a easily walkable distance. you could have 30 foot wide sidewalks on both sides of the street and it wouldn't make a difference.
Well the area is new and there is a big project in works to bring in more retail. Also this area isn't far from rail.

As you can see in the picture below, which is right down the street from the first link. The area is still very new.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ho...698028!6m1!1e1

That rail line literally just opened up like a year or two ago and all of the boom is a result of it.
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Old 07-05-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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Exactly. No one is trying to make Houston look like Chicago or NYC. I just want some damn sidewalks to walk on lol

There is so much potential here, but those sidewalks completely kill it:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ho...698028!6m1!1e1

And as you were saying, the random space of grass between the curb and the sidewalk. Pointless.


4th Ward connects to midtown. It's right outside of downtown, west of downtown across 45. Eado area is near 2nd Ward.
West Dallas to West Gray area?
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Old 07-05-2016, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Boston
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LOL @ uptown Houston and South park. Very car centric. Buckhead is the only one that has a chance at becoming an urban/dense/walkable area. Honestly, as other people have said, why not just take these areas of the city for what it's worth. Houston and Charlotte are clearly car centric city, let's not try and act like every city in the US is meant to be dense and walkable.
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Old 07-05-2016, 04:08 PM
 
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LOL @ uptown Houston and South park. Very car centric. Buckhead is the only one that has a chance at becoming an urban/dense/walkable area. Honestly, as other people have said, why not just take these areas of the city for what it's worth. Houston and Charlotte are clearly car centric city, let's not try and act like every city in the US is meant to be dense and walkable.
Atlanta is indeed car centric as well, it just so happens that the specific district it has happens to be a "lesser of all evils" compared to other districts on this thread.

Honestly, when it comes down to it, if there is a want, market, and will for it, then even the most spread out, spaced out suburb can turn into a dense, urban mecca.

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Old 07-05-2016, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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LOL @ uptown Houston and South park. Very car centric. Buckhead is the only one that has a chance at becoming an urban/dense/walkable area. Honestly, as other people have said, why not just take these areas of the city for what it's worth. Houston and Charlotte are clearly car centric city, let's not try and act like every city in the US is meant to be dense and walkable.
All three cities are car centric and Buckhead I don't believe is far beyond Uptown in Houston.
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