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View Poll Results: Rate the 2016 census estimates for PCSAs as it pertains to how your PCSA performed
Euphoria 2 3.23%
Excitement 11 17.74%
Satisfaction 14 22.58%
Average 9 14.52%
Disappointment 17 27.42%
Frustration 5 8.06%
Other 4 6.45%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-22-2017, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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He's talking about the drop in population growth in Harris County alone. Last year, it has a population growth of 90k plus. This year, it decreased to 56k plus. Last year, Houston metro grew up 159,000 people. I think it's safe to say that this won't be repeated.
Yeah, I realized that after I posted a response to him.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:38 PM
 
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Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), 2016:
01. New York MSA: 20,153,634
02. Los Angeles MSA: 13,310,447
03. Chicago MSA: 9,512,999
04. Dallas/Fort Worth MSA: 7,233,323
05. Houston MSA: 6,772,470
06. Washington D.C. MSA: 6,131,977
07. Philadelphia MSA: 6,070,500
08. Miami MSA: 6,066,387
09. Atlanta MSA: 5,789,700
10. Boston MSA: 4,794,447
11. San Francisco/Oakland MSA: 4,679,166
12. Phoenix MSA: 4,661,537
13. Riverside/San Bernardino MSA: 4,527,837
14. Detroit MSA: 4,297,617
15. Seattle MSA: 3,798,902
16. Minneapolis/Saint Paul MSA: 3,551,036
17. San Diego MSA: 3,317,749
18. Tampa MSA: 3,032,171
19. Denver MSA: 2,853,077
20. Saint Louis MSA: 2,807,002
21. Baltimore MSA: 2,798,886
22. Charlotte MSA: 2,474,314
23. Orlando MSA: 2,441,257
24. San Antonio MSA: 2,429,609
25. Portland MSA: 2,424,955
26. Pittsburgh MSA: 2,342,299
27. Sacramento MSA: 2,296,418
28. Cincinnati MSA: 2,165,139
29. Las Vegas MSA: 2,155,664
30. Kansas City MSA: 2,104,509
31. Austin MSA: 2,056,405
32. Cleveland MSA: 2,055,612
33. Columbus MSA: 2,041,520
34. Indianapolis MSA: 2,004,230
35. San Jose MSA: 1,978,816
36. Nashville MSA: 1,865,298
37. Virginia Beach MSA: 1,726,907
38. Providence MSA: 1,614,750
39. Milwaukee MSA: 1,572,482
40. Jacksonville MSA: 1,478,212
41. Oklahoma City MSA: 1,373,211
42. Memphis MSA: 1,342,842
43. Raleigh MSA: 1,302,946
44. Louisville MSA: 1,283,430
45. Richmond MSA: 1,281,708
46. New Orleans MSA: 1,268,883
47. Hartford MSA: 1,206,836
48. Salt Lake City MSA: 1,186,187
49. Birmingham MSA: 1,147,417
50. Buffalo MSA: 1,132,804
51. Rochester MSA: 1,078,879
52. Grand Rapids MSA: 1,047,099
53. Tucson MSA: 1,016,206

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Old 03-22-2017, 10:39 PM
 
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I think the way the Census worded it, DFW is 1st and Houston is 2nd. Again, I think people are over-exaggerating the affects of oil on Houston's growth. You would think the metro was gaining less than 100K from all of the doom comments. Anything over 100K is mind-blowing for a metro gaining only 200 something jobs in a year.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:41 PM
 
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Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), 2016:
01. New York MSA: 20,153,634
02. Los Angeles MSA: 13,310,447
03. Chicago MSA: 9,512,999
04. Dallas/Fort Worth MSA: 7,233,323
05. Houston MSA: 6,772,470
06. Washington D.C. MSA: 6,131,977
07. Philadelphia MSA: 6,070,500
08. Miami MSA: 6,066,387
09. Atlanta MSA: 5,789,700
10. Boston MSA: 4,794,447
11. San Francisco/Oakland MSA: 4,679,166
12. Phoenix MSA: 4,661,537
13. Riverside/San Bernardino MSA: 4,527,837
14. Detroit MSA: 4,297,617
15. Seattle MSA: 3,798,902
16. Minneapolis/Saint Paul MSA: 3,551,036
17. San Diego MSA: 3,317,749
18. Tampa MSA: 3,032,171
19. Denver MSA: 2,853,077
20. Saint Louis MSA: 2,807,002
21. Baltimore MSA: 2,798,886
22. Charlotte MSA: 2,474,314
23. Orlando MSA: 2,441,257
24. San Antonio MSA: 2,429,609
25. Portland MSA: 2,424,955
26. Pittsburgh MSA: 2,342,299
27. Sacramento MSA: 2,296,418
28. Cincinnati MSA: 2,165,139
29. Las Vegas MSA: 2,155,664
30. Kansas City MSA: 2,104,509
31. Austin MSA: 2,056,405
32. Cleveland MSA: 2,055,612
33. Columbus MSA: 2,041,520
34. Indianapolis MSA: 2,004,230
35. San Jose MSA: 1,978,816
36. Nashville MSA: 1,865,298

Atlanta actually slowed down big time in population growth. It only grew about 74k people between 2015-2016. Huge shocker. It grew 95k the year before....doesn't make an ounce of sense. Welp...there goes any chance of Atlanta reaching the 1m person a decade milestone this decade.

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Old 03-22-2017, 10:44 PM
 
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Slowdown in America's cities is concerning. If I didn't know any better, the United States is beginning its first stages of Europeanized population growth (aging population, less births, immigration inconsistent, so on) or the population growth that's taken over the developed Far East (obviously not that deep into it yet, but seems like it is starting).

You wont recognize America in 30-40 years from now.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:46 PM
 
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Might as well throw in other notables from the charts:

Cook County net domestic migration was a whopping -66,244. Even percentage-wise, that's actually even worse than Wayne County (Detroit) and Cuyahoga County (Cleveland)

Baltimore (City)'s loss was surprising. Net domestic migration was -11,008 or 1.8% of the whole population

Cuyahoga (Cleveland) lost 5,673 to hit 1,249,352 with net migration -10,122, somewhat typical.

Suffolk County, NY (eastern Long Island) was #4, losing 5,320 to hit 1,492,583. So, yes, a NYC metro county did decline, more than any Upstate county.

Milwaukee County lost 4,866 to 951,448 with net migration of -13,186, reversing about half of the 2010-15 gains.

Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) unfortunately down 3,933 to 1,225,365. Net outmigration was fairly low compared to other counties on this list, and it's the only one out of the top 10 to have a natural decrease

St. Louis City continues to bleed population. Down to 311,404. Lost almost as much this year as it did in 2011-15 combined. Percentagewise, net outmigration even higher than Baltimore at 2.0%

Other notables on the top 25 metros:

Myrtle Beach #2 at 3.9%, adding 16,802 to reach 449,295. Domestic migrants just this year account for 3.3% of the whole metro's population - there was a natural decrease of around 500 and very low int. migration

Cape Coral-Fort Myers #5 at 3.1%, adding 22,051 to reach 722,336. Like MB, slight natural decrease with very high domestic migration. Bit more int. migration though

Austin-Round Rock #9 at 2.9%, adding 58,301 to reach 2,056,405 (also crossing 2m). Natural increase 17k, domestic migration 33k, international migration 7k

Raleigh #14 at 2.5%, adding 31,565 to reach 1,302,946. Natural 8k, domestic 19k, international 4k

Orlando #15 also at 2.5%, adding 59,125 to reach 2,441,257. Natural 11k, domestic 29k, international 17k. Added a bit more than Austin numerically

Boise, ID #19 at 2.3%, adding 15,646 to reach 691,423.

#21, #22, and #23 were, respectively, Daytona Beach, Fayetteville (NW Arkansas), and Olympia (WA).

Charleston, SC #24 at 2.2%, adding 16,552 to reach 761,155.

Finally, Vegas #25 at 2.2%, adding 46,375 to reach 2,155,664. Natural 11k, domestic 28k, international 7k
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:48 PM
 
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Houston grew 115,523.

DFW grew 130,527.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:48 PM
 
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Slowdown in America's cities is concerning. If I didn't know any better, the United States is beginning its first stages of Europeanized population growth (aging population, less births, immigration inconsistent, so on) or the population growth that's taken over the developed Far East (obviously not that deep into it yet, but seems like it is starting).

You wont recognize America in 30-40 years from now.
New York metro if these numbers are to be believed actually posted a loss in population in the MSA. 20,153,634 in 2016 down from 20,182,305 in 2015. Los Angeles did too. These numbers are shocking to say the least. You can see the 2015 numbers here and compare: https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...xhtml?src=bkmk
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:49 PM
 
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WOW, I just checked Chicago MSA. It is nearly 50,000 down from last year. That's some absurdity!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tistical_Areas
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:50 PM
 
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Seriously. If immigration doesn't increase, this country will never see 3% GDP growth again. I'm truly shocked. These aren't really numbers you want to see. I said when the state estimates came out, but there are some metros who truly live and die by foreign immigration. NY and LA metro posting losses comes from the fact that outgoing domestic migration is too high.
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