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Great but what are the nonstop destinations from Denver vs nonstop destinations from the Bay?
Non North American Cities with nonstop Flights from Denver: 9
Belize City
Frankfurt
London(3 airlines)
Munich
Panama City
Paris
Reykjavik
Tokyo
Zurich
Non North American Cities with nonstop Flights from the Bay Area : 42
Amsterdam
Auckland(2 airlines)
Barcelona(2 airlines)
Beijing(3 airlines)
Chengdu
Copenhagen(2 airlines)
Delhi
Dubai
Dublin
Frankfurt(2 airlines)
Guangzhou
Helsinki
Istanbul
Hong Kong(4 airlines)
Lisbon
London(6 airlines)
Madrid
Manchester UK(2 airlines)
Manila
Melbourne
Munich(2 airlines)
Nadi
Osaka
Oslo
Qingdao
Panama City
Papeete(2 airlines)
Paris(5 airlines)
Reykjavik(2 airlines)
Rome
San Salvador
Seoul(4 airlines)
Shanghai(4 airlines)
Singapore(2 airlines)
Stockholm
Sydney(2 airlines)
Taipei(3 airlines)
Tel Aviv(2 airlines)
Tokyo(4 airlines)
Terceira
Wuhan
Zurich(2 airlines)
This is great, but why leave out North America? I thought part of Denver's hub-ness is from being fairly centrally located within the continental US and therefore a large hub for North American flights.
And are you making this a Denver vs the Bay Area topic again? Does one not exist yet?
Certainly people in San Jose can take flights from other Bay Area airports, but San Jose Airport is far more conveniently located than the others. I reckon this will be a bit different when BART finally makes its way to downtown San Jose.
Has Caltrain ever considered a spur to SFO?
Also, I wonder if any agency has ever attempted to calculate the costs of switching BART from its odd broad gauge to standard gauge? I think that's one of the worst missteps in mass transit any US public transit agency has ever done and it sucks that Caltrain and BART can't be easily combined into through-running service. A ring around the bay and a traverse or two across the middle would have been incredible.
One thing I was really impressed with in regards to Denver is the transit from the airport to downtown. That's some good planning there.
Last edited by OyCrumbler; 06-28-2018 at 08:08 AM..
Sure, but Denver and Santa Clara county attract completely different kinds of people for different reasons.
Just like in flights, as far as new residents, Denver is more domestic while San Jose continues to be way more international. Moved there from a Foreign Country, 2016:
Santa Clara County 38,885
Denver-Aurora-Lakewood MSA 15,890
Total Foreign Born Population, 2016
Santa Clara County 751,206...39.1% of the total population
Denver-Aurora-Lakewood MSA 346,679...12.2% of the population
And are you making this a Denver vs the Bay Area topic?
Nope he did.
Originally Posted by SkyDog77 View Post
There are ~50 non stop destinations from San Jose airport.
SFO has ~130 non stops.
DEN has ~200 non stops. More than the two airports combined and there is definitely a bit of overlap between non stops from SFO and SJC so the delta is greater.
DEN also see more passengers than SFO.
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Originally Posted by Oy Crumbler
This is great, but why leave out North America? I thought part of Denver's hub-ness is from being fairly centrally located within the continental US and therefore a large hub for North American flights.
I focus on long haul international flights, you can comprise a list for NA if you like, and from the viewpoint of a traveler, there is nothing remotely attractive about hubness imo.
I understand that but if Denver had the demand, those flights would be there.
And it's not just about being coastal because Chicago, Dallas and Atlanta are not coastal but have tons of international nonstops.
At the same time as the Denver area and area it influences grows, Im certain more international flights will come.
But why are we comparing Denver to cities 3x it's size? If you said Minneapolis, St. Louis or Kansas City had more international flights than Denver, then that would've been more reasonable as they're all within the same population range. Being coastal/near the coast does play a major part when it comes to international connections.
Originally Posted by SkyDog77 View Post
There are ~50 non stop destinations from San Jose airport.
SFO has ~130 non stops.
DEN has ~200 non stops. More than the two airports combined and there is definitely a bit of overlap between non stops from SFO and SJC so the delta is greater.
DEN also see more passengers than SFO.
I focus on long haul international flights, you can comprise a list for NA if you like, and from the viewpoint of a traveler, there is nothing remotely attractive about hubness imo.
If you're not into traveling around North America, then that's fine, but it sort of depends on the person. Denver does have a lot of flights out and that is a bonus.
Having SFO and OAK in commuting vicinity to San Jose is also a bonus, even if those are a bit further out for someone living in San Jose. I think if you're drawing the line at just San Jose and Denver, then Denver is better, but with the ability to reach the rest of the Bay Area from San Jose, then it becomes closer and tips towards San Jose in my opinion.
Let's also add points to Denver's airport for having some of the most head-scratchingly weird artwork of maybe any US airport.
Last edited by OyCrumbler; 06-28-2018 at 10:56 AM..
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