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Old 07-31-2018, 01:13 PM
 
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All would provide what you are looking for. Cincinnati is the biggest of the 3 areas, but Rochester is about an hour from Buffalo and in terms of a major area, it is about 3 hours from Toronto by car. Louisville is the second biggest of the 3 areas, with Rochester(which has the smallest land area), being a close 3rd.


In terms of Rochester, besides Downtown, this area of the city would be the best bet: https://rocwiki.org/Southeast_Quadrant


Home - Celebrate City Living (click on the neighborhoods in yellow)


For instance, this is a street view of the Park Avenue neighborhood in that quadrant: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1483...7i13312!8i6656


Park Avenue | Rochester NY | Restaurant | Boutique | Salon | Coffee Shop | Deli | Pub | 14607
More neighborhood info from other quadrants that are viable: https://www.charlottecca.org (NW)
https://rocwiki.org/Charlotte
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2512...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

Maplewood Neighborhood Association: Community is our nature! (NW, northern half is better)
https://rocwiki.org/Maplewood
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1937...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

North Winton Village Association, Rochester, New York (NE)
https://rocwiki.org/North_Winton_Village
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1578...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

Browncroft Neighborhood Association | (Founded 1973) (NE)
https://rocwiki.org/Browncroft
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1544...7i13312!8i6656

https://rocwiki.org/Northland-Lyceum (outer NE)
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1837...7i13312!8i6656

https://rocwiki.org/Homestead_Heights (NE, working/middle class area that is culturally mixed)
A Community of Neighbors (Sub neighborhood)
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1742...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

Beechwood Neighborhood Coalition | "Where Roots Grow Deep" (NE, similar to previous neighborhood, but a little more rough around the edges in parts)
https://rocwiki.org/Beechwood
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1681...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

http://www.19wca.org (SW, west of Thurston and around/south of Brooks are generally middle class)
https://rocwiki.org/19th_ward
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1317...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1331...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

Keep in mind that Rochester is the smallest city(land and population) as well.

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Old 07-31-2018, 05:56 PM
 
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I think you are selling Rochester short in the natural beauty department, in fact I think it's a pretty clear winter it's has a 110ft waterfall and gorge right Downtown and Lake Ontario within the city. And it's also a clear winner in proximity to other cities, it's a day trip from Toronto an hour from Buffalo, 5 from Philly and NYC and 6 from Boston.
I don't. I find Cincinnat's hills and location on the Ohio to be stunning. I also think Louisville still wins on location being the bridge between two distinct, culturally rich regions. Louisville is in closer proximity to large cities than Rochester. 5-6 hours is not very close to me.
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Old 07-31-2018, 05:58 PM
 
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I don't. I find Cincinnat's hills and location on the Ohio to be stunning. I also think Louisville still wins on location being the bridge between two distinct, culturally rich regions. Louisville is in closer proximity to large cities than Rochester. 5-6 hours is not very close to me.
Rochester is 2.5 hours from Toronto which is a pretty big deal.
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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I am a college student graduating in May 2019 with a business degree. I have potential job opportunities in all three cities, and I am trying to figure out which city would be best for a young professional. I prefer to live in an urban area with numerous amenities within walking distance.

Which city of the three is best, based on the following categories?
Food scene/culture- Cincinnati is a bigger league city than the other two, so its going to win on sheer options. Louisville has gained something of a (small scale) trendy foodie city reputations. Rochester is fine and has improved, but is probably last.
Economics- Again Cincinnati is going to have the biggest GDP and the most opportunities, Rochester once one of the premier midsized city economies has really struggled. Despite the decline of its marquee fortune 500 companies, the city has a nice collection of colleges, hospitals and smaller tech/knowledge companies. There a good opportunities to be found. Louisville will be closer to Rochester than Cincy, but generally better off.
Natural beauty/scenery- Rochester. This is subjective. But, I like Rochester's combo of Great Lake, Finger Lakes, Niagara Falls, Bluffs, Gorges, and Hills. The other two are also scenic. But, I prefer Rochester's variety.
Proximity to other cities- Rochester. Although, Cinncy and Lousiville have a few 2 million MSA cities within 3 hours. Rochester is the only one that is 3 hours from a major world class "destination" city.
Shopping- see food/economy
Nightlife- see food/economy
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Old 08-01-2018, 10:43 PM
 
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I would like to point out that Louisville is the only city that lacks an abandoned Subway of the 3.
While technically true, that's misleading. Louisville has a more important history than Rochester as a historically larger, denser, just a much more important city in westward expansion, American culture, etc.

Louisville's mass transit system was so robust it even extended across the river into the very urban other "Falls Cities." Like Cincinnati, this was a 19th century BISTATE metropolis. Rochester was never on this level, and still isn't. Strictly going by MSA, Louisville and Rochester are closer. But to this day, in every other way, Louisville is more like Cincinnati than Rochester. And that goes back to Louisville's built urban environment.

Instead of a Subway, Louisville built elevated lines. Louisville had excellent rapid transit service.

https://brokensidewalk.com/2009/pass...it-used-to-be/

https://brokensidewalk.com/2010/loui...ransit-trains/

Louisville had hundreds of miles of streetcars and a more expansive system than Rochester, many with 24 hour interurban train service to the suburbs:

https://historiclouisville.weebly.co...ated-rail.html
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Old 08-02-2018, 03:54 AM
 
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While technically true, that's misleading. Louisville has a more important history than Rochester as a historically larger, denser, just a much more important city in westward expansion, American culture, etc.

Louisville's mass transit system was so robust it even extended across the river into the very urban other "Falls Cities." Like Cincinnati, this was a 19th century BISTATE metropolis. Rochester was never on this level, and still isn't. Strictly going by MSA, Louisville and Rochester are closer. But to this day, in every other way, Louisville is more like Cincinnati than Rochester. And that goes back to Louisville's built urban environment.

Instead of a Subway, Louisville built elevated lines. Louisville had excellent rapid transit service.

https://brokensidewalk.com/2009/pass...it-used-to-be/

https://brokensidewalk.com/2010/loui...ransit-trains/

Louisville had hundreds of miles of streetcars and a more expansive system than Rochester, many with 24 hour interurban train service to the suburbs:

https://historiclouisville.weebly.co...ated-rail.html
Louisville absolutely does not have a more important history than Rochester, Rochester was the major center of the Suffrage movement, a major part of the Abolition movement and did to Imaging what Detriot did to cars. Obviously Rochester was never a bistate metro it's 100 miles from any other state. Louisville is 1.

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Old 08-02-2018, 06:30 AM
 
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Louisville absolutely does not have a more important history than Rochester, Rochester was the major center of the Suffrage movement, a major part of the Abolition movement and did to Imaging what Detriot did to cars. Obviously Rochester was never a bistate metro it's 100 miles from any other state. Louisville is 1.
Yeah, I guess Kodak, Xerox and Bausch & Lomb don’t ring a bell either.
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Old 08-02-2018, 02:46 PM
 
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Louisville absolutely does not have a more important history than Rochester, Rochester was the major center of the Suffrage movement, a major part of the Abolition movement and did to Imaging what Detriot did to cars. Obviously Rochester was never a bistate metro it's 100 miles from any other state. Louisville is 1.
We'll agree to disagree. Like Cincinnati is historically a tier above Louisville, Louisville is historically a tier above Rochester and it shows today. If Louisville isn't a full tier above it, it's a solid half tier and feels that way to this day. The momentum of development and growth in Louisville today puts Rochester to shame and Louisville is light years ahead in almost every category. If you don't believe this, come to Louisville and see the construction....it cannot be seen on google or street view.

Kodak? Give me a break. Louisville's historic companies are equally important if not more so like L&N railroad, Belknap Manufacturing, all the major whisky companies like Brown Forman, and so on. A major company like Humana could swallow Kodak whole 10 times over, at least what's left of it. No plant left, the company is on life support like Sears.

Look Rochester is a nice town but are you honestly arguing Rochester is on the same level as Louisville and has historically been that way?
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Old 08-02-2018, 03:35 PM
 
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We'll agree to disagree. Like Cincinnati is historically a tier above Louisville, Louisville is historically a tier above Rochester and it shows today. If Louisville isn't a full tier above it, it's a solid half tier and feels that way to this day. The momentum of development and growth in Louisville today puts Rochester to shame and Louisville is light years ahead in almost every category. If you don't believe this, come to Louisville and see the construction....it cannot be seen on google or street view.

Kodak? Give me a break. Louisville's historic companies are equally important if not more so like L&N railroad, Belknap Manufacturing, all the major whisky companies like Brown Forman, and so on. A major company like Humana could swallow Kodak whole 10 times over, at least what's left of it. No plant left, the company is on life support like Sears.

Look Rochester is a nice town but are you honestly arguing Rochester is on the same level as Louisville and has historically been that way?
I bet you own an Apple, Dell, Microsoft or Samsung produc (or anything with a circuit board). Their production would not be possible without costing and Film technology developed by Kodak. That alone has had such a massive effect on the world. Not to mention Rochester was actually at the forefront of many social movements and is the birthplace of Mormonism

Louisville is not notable in basically any major socio-political movement in US history it was a bystander in history. You don't get points for being old.
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Old 08-02-2018, 03:56 PM
 
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I bet you own an Apple, Dell, Microsoft or Samsung produc (or anything with a circuit board). Their production would not be possible without costing and Film technology developed by Kodak. That alone has had such a massive effect on the world. Not to mention Rochester was actually at the forefront of many social movements and is the birthplace of Mormonism

Louisville is not notable in basically any major socio-political movement in US history it was a bystander in history. You don't get points for being old.
Man, the Erie Canal hasn’t been mentioned either and it went through Rochester as well. https://rocwiki.org/Erie_Canal

Also, I think that people assume that there is no construction in Rochester or just don’t know much about the city/area.
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