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View Poll Results: which you prefer?
Boston 120 52.63%
Vancouver 108 47.37%
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Old 01-04-2019, 05:02 AM
 
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I just used Boston’s CSA. I think the point still stands though.



Just on a city level. There’s nothing Boston offers that Vancouver doesn’t imo
Vancouver does not have world class universities or hospitals, Vancouver has 1 major pro sports team Boston has 4. The Vancouver public library has a much smaller collection the Boston public library has. Boston has more esteemed club Turks institutions across the board.
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Old 01-04-2019, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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Vancouver does not have world class universities or hospitals, Vancouver has 1 major pro sports team Boston has 4. The Vancouver public library has a much smaller collection the Boston public library has. Boston has more esteemed club Turks institutions across the board.
Add to that the much more impressive collection of high culture institutions.

Plus for many of us Boston's ethnic mix is much more varied and diverse. So the cultural and culinary selection that comes with that mix is considerably more well rounded in Boston vs Vancouver.
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: PNW
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Vancouver does not have world class universities or hospitals, Vancouver has 1 major pro sports team Boston has 4. The Vancouver public library has a much smaller collection the Boston public library has. Boston has more esteemed club Turks institutions across the board.
Well Vancouver does have an MLS team which is trending major league in the next decade or so. That said, there is no comparison in categories of schools, art, civic and cultural institutions and local economy, Boston is a different beast altogether. Vancouver is a favorite of planners and urban designers for aesthetics, natural setting and utilization of natural facilities in those settings; few would debate it is not one of the strongest in North America in those categories.
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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Well Vancouver does have an MLS team which is trending major league in the next decade or so. That said, there is no comparison in categories of schools, art, civic and cultural institutions and local economy, Boston is a different beast altogether. Vancouver is a favorite of planners and urban designers for aesthetics, natural setting and utilization of natural facilities in those settings; few would debate it is not one of the strongest in North America in those categories.
This post pretty much hits the nail on the head! Agreed 100%.
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Old 01-04-2019, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I just used Boston’s CSA. I think the point still stands though.



Just on a city level. There’s nothing Boston offers that Vancouver doesn’t imo
For the sake of accuracy. Boston's CSA population is 4,732,161

Vancouver, Lower Mainland population is 2,759,000
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Old 01-04-2019, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Well Vancouver does have an MLS team which is trending major league in the next decade or so. That said, there is no comparison in categories of schools, art, civic and cultural institutions and local economy, Boston is a different beast altogether. Vancouver is a favorite of planners and urban designers for aesthetics, natural setting and utilization of natural facilities in those settings; few would debate it is not one of the strongest in North America in those categories.
This is where personal lifestyle really comes into play.
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Old 01-04-2019, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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For the sake of accuracy. Boston's CSA population is 4,732,161

Vancouver, Lower Mainland population is 2,759,000
I think you mean MSA. The CSA is 8,099,575.

But comparing the Lower Mainland to Boston's MSA is the right comparison, as Canadian cities do not have an equivalent of a CSA as its calculated in the US.
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Old 01-04-2019, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I think you mean MSA. The CSA is 8,099,575.

But comparing the Lower Mainland to Boston's MSA is the right comparison, as Canadian cities do not have an equivalent of a CSA as its calculated in the US.
Ah. Well CSA and MSA aren't terms or areas we use in Canada. When I Google CSA it actually gave me MSA. I missed the " did you mean MSA? " bit.

Anyway, their point was that Vancouver does extremely well for a city it's size, and it really boils down to lifestyle.

It also matters to me what country the city is in.

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Old 01-04-2019, 01:56 PM
 
Location: North Caroline
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I've only been to each city once (stayed for an extended period of time in each, though), but was overall much more impressed with Boston. The architecture, charm, and history of Boston is really a league above what Vancouver has to offer. Vancouver does have a more visually dramatic, beautiful natural setting, and more outdoor-focused recreation opportunities.

One thing about Vancouver is the city's large international Chinese "nouveau riche" population that hasn't made much of an attempt to assimilate/integrate, at all, into Canadian society. A lot of them send their kids there for school, but it seems like many are more concerned with flashing around their wealth than actually contributing to the community of Vancouver. Hopefully time changes this.

Another concern is that real estate and the housing market have become downright unaffordable for many locals.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...itish-columbia
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Old 01-04-2019, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I've only been to each city once (stayed for an extended period of time in each, though), but was overall much more impressed with Boston. The architecture, charm, and history of Boston is really a league above what Vancouver has to offer. Vancouver does have a more visually dramatic, beautiful natural setting, and more outdoor-focused recreation opportunities.

One thing about Vancouver is the city's large international Chinese "nouveau riche" population that hasn't made much of an attempt to assimilate/integrate, at all, into Canadian society. A lot of them send their kids there for school, but it seems like many are more concerned with flashing around their wealth than actually contributing to the community of Vancouver. Hopefully time changes this.

Another concern is that real estate and the housing market have become downright unaffordable for many locals.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...itish-columbia
The article is two years old, and is really a fear mongering piece. This is not to say there isn't an affordable housing issue. One that many, many cities are struggling with.

The thing to keep in mind with these type of articles, is that when quoting prices, they primarily quote prices within Vancouver proper. A very small area, leaving out the majority of the lower mainland.

They also skip around the rents. This article mentions " expensive rents" but give not context. Rents in Vancouver have generally been cheaper than cities like Boston and even nearby Seattle.

Comparing prices of housing gets very, very tricky between cities since different cities offer different things.

The day of owning a single family house in Vancouver for the average person is over. Just like it's over in many other desirable cities around the world. Some see this as the end of the world, some see it as the natural progression of supply and demand in a city hemmed in by ocean, mountains, and a an international border.

As for asian immigrants, the vast majority aren't wealthy, and do try and integrate. Older ones, like all older immigrants may find that harder.

The media loves a good story, and over the years I've read some that mention something and people take it and run with it. Like the articles about Coal Harbour. An area that had several large condo towers go up at once. The neighbourhood was new and slow to come to life. The media jumped on this and talked about the area being a ghost town. It wasn't, it may have seemed that way comparing it to other neighbourhoods nearby. Well, some here on CD and other internet sites, took that little bit of info and started saying Vancouver was a ghost town filled with empty condo towers. Total falsehood.
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