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View Poll Results: which you prefer?
Boston 120 52.63%
Vancouver 108 47.37%
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Old 02-18-2021, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Vancouver is literally 93% white and Asian I don't want to hear about diversity from Vancouver.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...etro_Vancouver
White is a race, not an ethnicity.

""Vancouver is a very diverse city, there is over 200 ethnic groups reported," said Dobson."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...tscan-1.759993

I'm not speaking about percentages, but about the variety of groups. Boston is not MUCH wider.
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Old 02-18-2021, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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Boston is not MUCH wider.
Boston is MUCH wider because of significantly larger groups from Central America, South America, and the Caribbean. Not sure about African ethnicities.

Per wiki, 30% of Vancouver is Chinese. Not Asian. Chinese. No ethnic group comes remotely close to dominating Boston like that. Also per wiki, the largest group in 2011 was Irish at 16%, but I’m sure that percentage decreased over the decade.
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Old 02-18-2021, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Originally Posted by Natnasci View Post
White is a race, not an ethnicity.

""Vancouver is a very diverse city, there is over 200 ethnic groups reported," said Dobson."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...tscan-1.759993

I'm not speaking about percentages, but about the variety of groups. Boston is not MUCH wider.
I mean...you're using a Candian definition of diversity. Which I won't because Canada is a diversity-challenged nation in general. At least when compared to other countries in the Americas

If everyone from Europe and Asia wealthy/ dynamic nations many of whom has similar histories and cultures-its not diverse.

I mean should we really parse out all the various white, black, Latino, and Asian ethnicities in Boston? No, we just don't do that in America. Because those differences generally are not that great.

The cultural differences are less drastic than Boston and I would seriously consider Vancouver the least Diverse major N-A city aside from Portland.

Obviously, Boston has much, much, much more racial diversity and a wider range of continents and socioeconomic diversity represented. No realistic way you could say Vancouver represents as wide a range as Boston. I have nothing left to say in that regard.
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Boston is MUCH wider because of significantly larger groups from Central America, South America, and the Caribbean. Not sure about African ethnicities.
Vancouver has no African populations to speak of Boston blows it out of the water here.

This isn't even 'kinda sorta' close..

There really might be more are probably more Cape Verdeans in Roxbury and Dorchester (2 of Bostons 21 neighborhoods) than all Africans in the entirety of Metro Vancouver. Seeing as there are only about 29,000 Black people (many if not most of whom are the Caribbean) in the entire Vancouver metro area lmao.

Without any Latin American or black people to speak of "Vancouver diversity", is a moot point.
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Boston is MUCH wider because of significantly larger groups from Central America, South America, and the Caribbean. Not sure about African ethnicities.

Per wiki, 30% of Vancouver is Chinese. Not Asian. Chinese. No ethnic group comes remotely close to dominating Boston like that. Also per wiki, the largest group in 2011 was Irish at 16%, but I’m sure that percentage decreased over the decade.
2019 Census 1-year estimates have Irish folks at just over 13% of Boston and the next closest groups would probably be Black Americans at ~10% then Italians at ~6% then "west Indian" at 5.5% and then Puerto Ricans at 5%

The Vancouver nonsense is just that-nonsense.
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Natnasci View Post
White is a race, not an ethnicity.

""Vancouver is a very diverse city, there is over 200 ethnic groups reported," said Dobson."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...tscan-1.759993

I'm not speaking about percentages, but about the variety of groups. Boston is not MUCH wider.
In addition to the whole HongCouver thing, Vancouver has a huge Sikh population. Google shows 155,000 and 6.8%. My sister runs a research lab at UBC in the Medical School in addition to her day job. It’s the UN. Russians. Iranians. West Africans. The usual big chunk of Asian/Indian. There aren’t many native Canadians.

Vancouver has inward migration of the best and the brightest from around the planet. Boston has that too and it’s not the unwashed poor people in the projects. It’s the top tech, biotech, and university talent that drives the economy. Boston has been like that since the Massachusetts Miracle days in the 1970s. Very little of the top talent has been native. Edwin Land who invented the Polaroid camera is from Bridgeport Connecticut. So was Ken Olsen who founded Digital Equipment Corporation. An Wang certainly wasn’t a Boston Brahmin. He was from Shanghai.

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Old 02-18-2021, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Originally Posted by Natnasci View Post
White is a race, not an ethnicity.

""Vancouver is a very diverse city, there is over 200 ethnic groups reported," said Dobson."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...tscan-1.759993

I'm not speaking about percentages, but about the variety of groups. Boston is not MUCH wider.
Can we stop boosting Vancouver. I voted for Vancouver and Im not even boosting it this much... Its like trying to argue Philadelphia has less crime than New York because New York has almost as much variety. I get you live there and hometown pride is great. But Vanouver scores top on a lot of rankings over Boston, diversity isnt one.
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Old 02-18-2021, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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In addition to the whole HongCouver thing, Vancouver has a huge Sikh population. Google shows 155,000 and 6.8%. My sister runs a research lab at UBC in the Medical School in addition to her day job. It’s the UN. Russians. Iranians. West Africans. The usual big chunk of Asian/Indian. There aren’t many native Canadians.

Vancouver has inward migration of the best and the brightest from around the planet. Boston has that too and it’s not the unwashed poor people in the projects. It’s the top tech, biotech, and university talent that drives the economy. Boston has been like that since the Massachusetts Miracle days in the 1970s. Very little of the top talent has been native. Edwin Land who invented the Polaroid camera is from Bridgeport Connecticut. So was Ken Olsen who founded Digital Equipment Corporation. An Wang certainly wasn’t a Boston Brahmin. He was from Shanghai.
The second half of your paragraph kind of makes the point.


Vancouver is ~2.5-3% latin Americans and black peoples (not ex-slaves). No one mentioned the projects either -put your prejudices away for a hot second. Lot of stereotypes just came out of nowhere..

It one thing to have a small population it’s another to be negligible...

As I stated earlier the top immigrant group in Boston is Chinese.

But Vancouver being 30% Chinese and virtually all white and Asian is an enormous knock against the diversity thing. Seeing as Boston biggest ethnic group isn’t even half the size of Vancouver’s..please put this theory to bed.

Boston doesn’t lack for Asians by any stretch of the imagination.

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Old 02-18-2021, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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In addition to the whole HongCouver thing, Vancouver has a huge Sikh population. Google shows 155,000 and 6.8%. My sister runs a research lab at UBC in the Medical School in addition to her day job. It’s the UN. Russians. Iranians. West Africans. The usual big chunk of Asian/Indian. There aren’t many native Canadians.

Vancouver has inward migration of the best and the brightest from around the planet. Boston has that too and it’s not the unwashed poor people in the projects. It’s the top tech, biotech, and university talent that drives the economy. Boston has been like that since the Massachusetts Miracle days in the 1970s. Very little of the top talent has been native. Edwin Land who invented the Polaroid camera is from Bridgeport Connecticut. So was Ken Olsen who founded Digital Equipment Corporation. An Wang certainly wasn’t a Boston Brahmin. He was from Shanghai.
Isn’t that (the bolded part) the point? Boston has the diverse, international and wealthy post-doc crowd. It also has a very large Chinese community. There’s little in the way of diversity in Vancouver that you wouldn’t also find in Boston. However, there is a wide variety of peoples that live in Boston and not in Vancouver. And no, they don’t all live in projects.

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Old 02-19-2021, 08:19 AM
 
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here is a couple of nic shots of Vancouver

https://live.staticflickr.com/8637/1...cdc25163_k.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/vY2nLB7F/34324a-1.png

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...605a4dc7_h.jpg
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