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New York continues to receive much over twice the immigration than SF/SJ on an annual basis from South Asia, so there’s no way that it ever loses its status as #1 in the US ( and likely number 3 in the West behind London and Toronto). DHS has some verifiable stats on this. If I recall, the immigration from Bangladesh alone into the NY MSA trumps the entire South Asian immigration into the SF CSA.
Except the actual data shows a trend contrary to your statement.
Born in South Central Asia:
New York CSA:
2017 714,704
2013 637,989
2013-2017 Growth: +76,715
2013-2017 Percent Change: +12.08%
Bay Area CSA:
2017 379,991
2013 298,292
2013-2018 Growth +81,699
2013-2017 Percent Change +27.18%
I’ll link to the DHS website. Which is for immigration. Also what is south Central Asia? The topic is South Asia. Maybe literacy isn’t a strong point in the Bay Area. Now that you were laughed off SSP I see you continue your BS here, eh diamondpark? Lol.
I decided to do something a little more strenuous and look at South Asian (Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, and Nepali) population by census tract for the metro areas NYC, San Francisco, San Jose, Chicago, LA, DC, Houston, and Dallas. That's a total of nearly 15,000 total census tracts along here. If you're talking about influence, then it's about spreading of various things. I looked at actual integration across each census tract, county, and therefore metro areas and looked at various measures.
There are many different measures I've calculated at various levels with this data, most of it has to do with the percentage of people living in areas with a certain minimum percentage of South Asian population percentage living per tract. This measures a lot better the integration aspect of things and essentially "punishes" hyper segregationed tracts for being insular. If the population is spread amongst an area, and not just in one giant enclave, then there's potential for more influence amongst other people in my opinion.
Data was collected from the 2017 ACS, 5 year tables B02015 (Asian alone population) and B01003 (Total Population per geography).
Percentage of non-South Asian population living in census tracts with at least 10% South Asian population, by MSA
1. San Jose MSA: 27.1% of non South Asian population
2. NYC MSA: 9.23%
3. San Francisco MSA: 8.43%
4. Washington DC MSA: 7.59%
5. Chicago MSA: 6.71%
6. Dallas MSA: 5.48%
7. Houston MSA: 5.27%
8. Los Angeles MSA: 1.01%
Percentage of non-South Asian population living in census tracts with at least 10% South Asian population, by County
1. Middlesex County, NJ (NYC): 45.79%
2. Loudoun County, VA (Washington DC): 41.72%
3. Fort Bend County, TX (Houston): 37.55%
4. Somerset County, NJ (NYC): 33.82%
5. Santa Clara County, CA (San Jose): 28.01%
6. Queens County, NY (NYC): 26.6%
7. Hudson County, NJ (NYC): 22.27%
8. Collin County, TX (Dallas): 19.27%
9. DuPage County, IL (Chicago): 18.91%
10. Alameda County, CA (San Francisco): 18.51%
11. Fairfax County, VA (Washington DC): 17.04%
12. Nassau County, NY (NYC): 12.47%
13. Montgomery County, MD (Washington DC): 10.85%
14. Morris County, NJ (NYC): 10.11%
15. Bergen County, NJ (NYC): 9.62%
16. Will County, IL (Chicago): 8.69%
17. Cook County, IL (Chicago): 7.15%
18. Denton County, TX (Dallas): 7.08%
19. Contra Costa County, CA (San Francisco): 6.32%
20. Passaic County, NJ (NYC): 5.98%
21. Dallas County, TX (Dallas): 5.68%
22. Lake County, IL (Chicago): 5.29%
23. Kings County (Brooklyn), NY (NYC): 4.73%
24. Bronx County, NY (NYC): 4.25%
25. Richmond County, NY (NYC): 4.05%
26. San Mateo County, CA (San Francisco): 3.56%
27. Monmouth County, NJ (NYC): 2.41%
28. Prince William County, VA (Washington DC): 2.39%
29. Harris County, TX (Houston): 2.17%
30. Essex County, NJ (NYC): 1.8%
31. Suffolk County, NY (NYC): 1.75%
32. Arlington County, VA (Washington DC): 1.51%
33. Westchester County, NY (NYC): 1.14%
34. Los Angeles County, CA (Los Angeles): 1.07%
35. Tarrant County, TX (Dallas): 0.88%
36. Orange County, CA (Los Angeles): 0.81%
37. Galveston County, TX (Houston): 0.75%
38. New York County (Manhattan), NY (NYC): 0.46%
39. Prince George's County, MD (Washington DC): 0.35%
The next 52 counties are all at 0%. Again, the next step of the starting point but doesn't mean everything. Manhattan for example is pretty low here but since there's so many South Asians who work in Manhattan, there's tons of Indian stores and restaurants in Manhattan as a result despite the relatively low resident population there.
Last edited by marothisu; 02-18-2019 at 10:21 PM..
So I pulled the immigration stats from 2013-2017 per the department of homeland security website. This is a comparison of the NY MSA vs. the SF/SJ CSA combined.
2017
NY MSA:
Bangladesh - 7,822
India - 9,551
Nepal - 1,197
Pakistan - 4,153
Sri Lanka - 349
Total - 23,072
SF/SJ CSA:
Bangladesh - 183
India - 5,253
Nepal - 582
Pakistan - 593
Sri Lanka - 82
Total - 6,693
2016
NY MSA:
Bangladesh - 10,159
India - 10,768
Nepal - 1,458
Pakistan - 4,910
Sri Lanka - 401
Total - 27,696
SF/SJ CSA:
Bangladesh - 194
India - 5,536
Nepal - 660
Pakistan - 691
Sri Lanka - 97
Total - 7,178
2015
NY MSA:
Bangladesh - 7,540
India - 9,980
Nepal - 1,311
Pakistan - 4,462
Sri Lanka - 352
Total - 23,645
SF/SJ CSA:
Bangladesh - 155
India - 6,099
Nepal - 565
Pakistan - 634
Sri Lanka - 106
Total - 7,559
2014
NY MSA:
Bangladesh - 8,038
India - 12,350
Nepal - 1,285
Pakistan - 4,800
Sri Lanka - 388
Total - 26,861
SF/SJ CSA:
Bangladesh - 154
India - 7,810
Nepal - 556
Pakistan - 550
Sri Lanka - 96
Total - 9,166
2013
NY MSA:
Bangladesh - 6,010
India - 10,818
Nepal - 1,358
Pakistan - 3,121
Sri Lanka - 417
Total- 21,724
SF/SJ CSA:
Bangladesh - 121
India - 6,831
Nepal - 625
Pakistan - 504
Sri Lanka - 86
Total - 8,167
Combined 5 Year total
NY MSA:
Bangladesh - 39,569
India - 53,467
Nepal - 6,609
Pakistan - 21,446
Sri Lanka - 1,907
Total - 122,998
SF/SJ CSA:
Bangladesh - 807
India - 31,529
Nepal - 2,988
Pakistan - 2,972
Sri Lanka - 467
Total - 38,763
My data is from the Census Bureau and reflects where immigrants have actually settled upon entering the US.
South Central Asia is what the Indian subcontinent is called in this statistic of selected characteristics:
What is this nonsense? We're talking data here. I feel embarrased for you that you would stoop to petty, personal insults.
LOL indeed.
Bogus. South Central Asia includes Iran, Kazakhstan, and other countries that have nothing to do with the Indian Sub-Continent. You are being willfully ignorant at best, and dishonest at worst.
Bogus. South Central Asia includes Iran, Kazakhstan, and other countries that have nothing to do with the Indian Sub-Continent. You are being willfully ignorant at best, and dishonest at worst.
Yet after calculating the correct countries your claim that NY/NJ has twice as much immigrant growth is proven to be patently FALSE
Born in: Afghanistan, Bengladesh, Bhutan, India, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka
New York CSA:
2017 651,879
2013 580,837
2013-2017 Growth +71,042
2013-2017 Percent Change +12.24%
Bay Area CSA:
2017 340,120
2013 259,676
2013-2017 Growth +80,444
2013-2017 Percent Change +31.27%
It’s not false. I provided stats straight from the DHS. In the past 5 years NY received as many Bangladeshi immigrants as South Asians as a whole for SF/SJ. Sorry man. Facts are facts.
It’s not false. I provided stats straight from the DHS. In the past 5 years NY received as many Bangladeshi immigrants as South Asians as a whole for SF/SJ. Sorry man. Facts are facts.
Yes facts are facts and 'receiving immigrants' isnt the same thing as where they actual settle. If you can't distinguish the difference that's your problem.
In the past 5 years, the Bay Area's South Asian Immigrant population has grown by 80,000 while NY/NJ's has grown by 71,000.
DHS is a lot more reliable data than a sample survey. Can't believe there's even a thought that a sample survey is more accurate than an organization that actually handles this stuff. That's like going to the Census for employment data over the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Pretty frivolous.
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