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View Poll Results: Best measure of city/metro size
MSA population comparison 48 64.86%
Specific radius population comparison 26 35.14%
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Old 09-28-2019, 11:46 PM
 
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Urban area imho is by far the most accurate. It gets rid of boarders and focuses on continuous urban density
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Old 09-29-2019, 03:50 AM
 
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The stats for urban area are mostly not even urban, they're mostly suburban. I guess it's somewhat of a measure of how built up the area is, but it's not even close to a measure of real urban area
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Old 09-29-2019, 06:45 AM
 
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The stats for urban area are mostly not even urban, they're mostly suburban. I guess it's somewhat of a measure of how built up the area is, but it's not even close to a measure of real urban area
That's what "urbanized" means in that context--built up or developed. The minimum density threshold is on the low side though.

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Old 09-29-2019, 06:51 AM
 
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The stats for urban area are mostly not even urban, they're mostly suburban. I guess it's somewhat of a measure of how built up the area is, but it's not even close to a measure of real urban area
While it is by no means perfect... It's by far the most accurate way to measure a cities functional population.

Legacy cities like NYC/Chicago/LA/Boston/Seattle/Baltimore/DC/SF/Philly etc.. will have the largest expanses of consistent classic urbanism due to their age & pre-automobile growth for the foreseeable future due to their

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Old 09-29-2019, 07:17 AM
 
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While it is by no means perfect... It's by far the most accurate way to measure a cities overall population rather than how built up the city is.

Legacy cities like NYC/Chicago/LA/Boston/Seattle/Baltimore/DC/SF/Philly etc.. will always have the largest expanses of consistent classic urbanism due to their age for the foreseeable future due to their pre-automobile growth.
Seattle doesn't belong in that grouping IMO.
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Old 09-29-2019, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Seattle doesn't belong in that grouping IMO.
I forgot to take it out the "list" when I typed it lol...
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Old 09-29-2019, 12:16 PM
 
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Logically, and most of the time, where there is more population, there are more amenities available which is why radius population provides a decent picture of what's usable to me.
There can be places with large populations and not much amenities, OKC is reputed to be one of those places. Asheville is a small place with lots to do.

Someone who is relocating will chose a place with what they want to do. As well as jobs in their field if they have a specialty. I expect a Cambodian will choose a city/town with an existing Cambodian population.

As for general comparisons, I would vote for urban area.
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Old 09-29-2019, 12:21 PM
 
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That's what "urbanized" means in that context--built up or developed. The minimum density threshold is on the low side though.

Yeah. they should call it semi-urbanized area or something. I guess that might confuse even more though. Still the fact is most of the areas they call urbanized are not what most people would consider 'urban', especially people in the northeast.
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Old 09-29-2019, 12:33 PM
 
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It's not dense urban but it is customers that will patronize stores & restaurants, attend cultural & sports events etc.
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Old 09-29-2019, 06:05 PM
 
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Yeah. they should call it semi-urbanized area or something. I guess that might confuse even more though. Still the fact is most of the areas they call urbanized are not what most people would consider 'urban', especially people in the northeast.
I don't think most people think of the word "urban" in the specialized way we use it on this forum and in planning circles; I think most use it in the general sense of being built up or developed, even in the Northeast. In any case, it's possible that the word "urbanized" is specifically used to sidestep the specialized usage so that it is inclusive of both prewar and postwar development.
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