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Old 02-12-2020, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Ever crossed your mind you dont know as much about American culture as you think? .

How about I dropped you into a Québécois discussion board? Even if it were in English, how'd you think you'd do? How'd you think James MacKenzie from Brandon, Manitoba would do?


And you and others comment on Canada/Quebec all the time, about how regions of Canada are not different from each other, how they're not really diverse, blablabla... Pretty sure I am a lot more qualified to comment on the U.S. than almost any of you guys are to comment about Canada.


And of course there's not-so-nice insinuated racial subtext on here that no one ever admits to, but that I absolutely looooove, which is how you guys always hint at: "Of course Canada has lower murder rates - they hardly have any black or hispanic people!" Niiiiice.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Yes, but we have people who descended from French immigrants, and they don't hold ballot referendums requesting to form their own country.
Which if you really think about it, actually adds to Canada's diversity score, for better or for worse!
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Ummm Black America(ns)?? and the Black Belt? 47 million Blacks with our own music, dialect,style of dress, customs, familial structure etc.. , 30 million of which are in the Coastal Southeast?

OR Mexicans and the Southwest???


How Much do you think a black guy from florida and a white guy from Washington have in Common? Or a Mexican from New Mexico and a white guy from Vermont?
really?

Ever crossed your mind you dont know as much about American culture as you think? Were talking about a whole group of people that was enslaved for most of the countries history and you think they've really got a ton in common with a white dude from Indiana??

What about Cajuns, and Creoles? Alaskan Natives? Hawaiians?? Or literal Native American Nations.

I cannot believe what i'm reading right not.
All of these groups are way more integrated into mainstream American culture than French Canadians generally are into mainstream Canadian culture.


In fact, one could actually argue that mainstream Canadian culture is a misnomer, and doesn't really exist.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Wow yeah we will be in the 50's soon... Were exactly 60% in 2019.
usually those are very high "white" estimates compared to what the census actually puts out when its all said and done
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Ummm Black America(ns)?? and the Black Belt? 47 million Blacks with our own music, dialect,style of dress, customs, familial structure etc.. , 30 million of which are in the Coastal Southeast?

.

In order to have something similar you'd have to basically have, say, the entire Midwest be very predominantly black, with its own autonomous government structure essentially controlled by blacks, including stuff like the education system from K-12 to university, etc.


You'd have people of all origins including White Anglo Americans, people of Chinese, Arab, etc. origins integrated and living in the African-American culture seamlessly.


We're talking about something pretty different and way more comprehensive.


This is not meant to be dismissive of African-Americans and their culture. I actually admire AA culture a lot and find it fascinating. If you look at my posting history you'll see that I often say that African-Americans are, relative to population, the most culturally influential group of people in the modern world (music, dance, fashion, etc.).
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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All of these groups are way more integrated into mainstream American culture than French Canadians generally are into mainstream Canadian culture.


In fact, one could actually argue that mainstream Canadian culture is a misnomer, and doesn't really exist.
alright. this is dumb. You gotta stop.

Native Americans who live in real life sovereign nations and reservations in the plains are more integrated into the US mainstream than French Canadians?

What about blacks who live without power and electricity inn the mississippi delta?

Or Central American migrant workers kids who sharecrop tobacco in North Carolina before they get bussed to other states to work?
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Right, which are 90% white or Asian. Nowhere near as diverse as most American cities.
Montreal & Toronto are just or more diverse than Miami, DC, Philly, Portland, Seattle, Tampa, Baltimore, Las Vegas, Denver (there's more).. almost all of which have 2 races that comprise 80-90% of their populations.

So no, they are as diverse as majority of the big metros in the US country, they just have different primary demographics.

Either way... I getting back on topic of the thread

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Old 02-12-2020, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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Of course, a thread about homicides becomes a clusterf*** about how Canada isn't diverse (when your major cities have 200+ ethnic groups, that's insanely diverse, don't make it a black or white thing). Some posters use this excuse to justify that's why Canada is safer (they must be racist) without accounting for other factors. To the American people who are offended that Canada is safer and throw the race/diversity card, just ****, seriously. This is a thread about homicides, not a circlejerk competition on which city/country is more diverse. If you want to have a diversity Olympic thread, make one rather than derailing this one.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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In order to have something similar you'd have to basically have, say, the entire Midwest be very predominantly black, with its own autonomous government structure essentially controlled by blacks, including stuff like the education system from K-12 to university, etc.


You'd have people of all origins including White Anglo Americans, people of Chinese, Arab, etc. origins integrated and living in the African-American culture seamlessly.


We're talking about something pretty different and way more comprehensive.


This is not meant to be dismissive of African-Americans and their culture. I actually admire AA culture a lot and find it fascinating. If you look at my posting history you'll see that I often say that African-Americans are, relative to population, the most culturally influential group of people in the modern world (music, dance, fashion, etc.).
We have 101 black colleges and universities and thousands of K-12 schools that are 95%+ black. Hundreds of counties that are 65% + black and tens of thousands of census tracts that are 80%+ black. There are more Black Americans than there are Canadians period.

Black America would be would be the 7th largest black countries in the world.

I'd imagine it's hard for you a white canadian to grasp how all encompassing this reality can be. You think that white American understand black culture-they will tell you, they absolutely don't. Let alone you as a Canadian...


See I would never get on the Quebec Forum and try to have arguments like this. I'd come off as uninformed or under informed and ignorant.
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Old 02-12-2020, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Montreal & Toronto are just or more diverse than Miami, DC, Philly, Portland, Seattle, Tampa, Baltimore, Las Vegas, Denver (there's more).. almost all of which have 2 races that comprise 80-90% of their populations.

So no, they are as diverse as majority of the big metros in the US country, they just have different primary demographics.
Seattle Tampa Portland Baltimore Denver are not very diverse and no one really thinks they are

DC and Philly are very debatable as is Miami.


But again-please remove Montreal from this conversation
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