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Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by newgensandiego
"Tie" in what exactly? Having a lower cost of living doesn't make a place more important. Having a higher standard of living doesn't make a place more important. Being a sexier destination doesn't make a place more important.
You are really grasping at straws.
I still don't buy your reasoning why San Diego is so important. I feel you're overselling San Diego more than I'm overselling Phoenix. And again, no one is really agreeing with you either
I still don't buy your reasoning why San Diego is so important. I feel you're overselling San Diego more than I'm overselling Phoenix. And again, no one is really agreeing with you either
Phoenix:
- State capital, largest city in SW, medium-sized airport hub, sizeable GDP, sports teams
San Diego:
- Four globally significant industries (defense, telecommunications, biotech/lifesciences, trade), 4th largest binational region in world + busiest border crossing, comparable GDP to Phoenix (but only if excluding 2.1M people...so not really), international hub for tech/innovation, better universities with more impact than Phoenix.
They seem pretty even to me--important in different ways. But ultimately I think San Diego's binational economy, military complex, and globally-relevant innovation sector have far greater importance than Phoenix being a big deal in Arizona.
Also, you aren't "overselling Phoenix". You've literally only mentioned sports teams and population. If anything, you are underselling it. That's why I specifically mentioned media market and airport hub. Because you haven't even made a solid argument on your own.
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by newgensandiego
Phoenix:
- State capital, largest city in SW, medium-sized airport hub, sizeable GDP, sports teams
San Diego:
- Four globally significant industries (defense, telecommunications, biotech/lifesciences, trade), 4th largest binational region in world + busiest border crossing, comparable GDP to Phoenix (but only if excluding 2.1M people...so not really), international hub for tech/innovation, better universities with more impact than Phoenix.
They seem pretty even to me--important in different ways. But ultimately I think San Diego's binational economy, military complex, and globally-relevant innovation sector have far greater importance than Phoenix being a big deal in Arizona.
We have Luke AFB here, so we're a military town as well, and also have the tech industry growing here. You left that out
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by newgensandiego
Phoenix:
- State capital, largest city in SW, medium-sized airport hub, sizeable GDP, sports teams
San Diego:
- Four globally significant industries (defense, telecommunications, biotech/lifesciences, trade), 4th largest binational region in world + busiest border crossing, comparable GDP to Phoenix (but only if excluding 2.1M people...so not really), international hub for tech/innovation, better universities with more impact than Phoenix.
They seem pretty even to me--important in different ways. But ultimately I think San Diego's binational economy, military complex, and globally-relevant innovation sector have far greater importance than Phoenix being a big deal in Arizona.
Also, you aren't "overselling Phoenix". You've literally only mentioned sports teams and population. If anything, you are underselling it. That's why I specifically mentioned media market and airport hub. Because you haven't even made a solid argument on your own.
BTW, I don't know if you've noticed who's president, but his administration has made it clear that he doesn't want Mexican nationals here, so I don't even know that you can count the Tijuana side anymore
Side note, I hate tRump and didn't vote for him, just pointing this out
BTW, I don't know if you've noticed who's president, but his administration has made it clear that he doesn't want Mexican nationals here, so I don't even know that you can count the Tijuana side anymore
Side note, I hate tRump and didn't vote for him, just pointing this out
LOL. you really are struggling, aren't you?
1) Phoenix metro has a larger Mexican immigrant population than San Diego. Either way, this doesn't even matter.
2) Last year, for the first time ever, Mexico actually surpassed Canada and China to become our largest trading partner.
Okay, fine. We're the Wichita of the west. There, is that what you want to hear?
Again, that's not what I'm asserting. My claim is that there are credible arguments that San Diego is more important than Phoenix--which I've listed.
You started this conversation by scoffing at the suggestion that San Diego could be more important and have somehow managed to drag out this debate, yet haven't done anything to substantiate your predisposition. It's amusing that you think it is "so obvious" that Phoenix is more important, but are struggling to demonstrate why.
I know I sound like a broken record on this but I have been saying for a while that Seattle is a dark horse in these things.
I think Seattle will be firmly in the 8-11 range with Atlanta and DFW in the near future.
The only thing holding it apart from those two is the massive growth in DFW and Atlanta
But pound for pound I think Seattle can hang.
I see Seattle as a top 10 metro, only problem is we have 12 top 10 metros
I know I sound like a broken record on this but I have been saying for a while that Seattle is a dark horse in these things.
I think Seattle will be firmly in the 8-11 range with Atlanta and DFW in the near future.
The only thing holding it apart from those two is the massive growth in DFW and Atlanta
But pound for pound I think Seattle can hang.
I see Seattle as a top 10 metro, only problem is we have 12 top 10 metros
Haha, yeah that's a good way of putting it.
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