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Providence has superior waterfront infrastructure, but Oakland has a more prominent coastline, given that the San Francisco Bay is much more expansive than the Providence River.
Totally agree and Providence closer to legit beaches.
Honestly ..Oakland needs the crime to remain Oakland. With Providence level crime it’s just be East San Francisco due to how expensive it would be
So I don’t think you can even really say “outside of the crime”, if that’s the only thing keeping the median home value under $1M
That's a good point - even though the nice parts of Oakland are actually quite safe I think the general reputation of the city as a dangerous place does affect home values.
That's a good point - even though the nice parts of Oakland are actually quite safe I think the general reputation of the city as a dangerous place does affect home values.
There’s that yea, but it is legitimately a very high crime city. And crime is sort of a sort of the Oakland brand for better or for worse.
If we’re gonna pick Oakland we have to keep in mind that crime is nearly 2x as high and home prices are nearly 4x as high as Providence. Maybe this is why Providence is winning?
It’s kind of surprising that Oakland has more crime despite being wealthier.
Anyway, I know that one thing Providence is known for (locally at least) is WaterFire. Does Oakland have any similar large festivals that attract visitors from around the Bay?
Also how do the cities compare in terms of nightlife? How about parks and recreation?
It’s kind of surprising that Oakland has more crime despite being wealthier.
Anyway, I know that one thing Providence is known for (locally at least) is WaterFire. Does Oakland have any similar large festivals that attract visitors from around the Bay?
Also how do the cities compare in terms of nightlife? How about parks and recreation?
Wealth doesn’t really directly correlate to crime . Once the criminal ties, gangs, infrastructure and culture is set in place it takes many many decades to get rid of it. The problem can set in in 5 years and take 50 to rubout.
Providence never established a gang culture.
Providence used to have great nightlife for its size but I spoke to a friend there 4 days ago and asked him about life and he said nightlife in Providence was subpar nowadays
Totally agree and Providence closer to legit beaches.
I'm not sure about that - how far is the closest beach that you'd consider legit to Providence?
On a weekend day without much traffic (okay, maybe that's wishful thinking) Oakland is about a 45 minute drive from Half Moon Bay, 60 minutes from Stinson Beach, and 70 minutes from the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk.
It’s kind of surprising that Oakland has more crime despite being wealthier.
Anyway, I know that one thing Providence is known for (locally at least) is WaterFire. Does Oakland have any similar large festivals that attract visitors from around the Bay?
Also how do the cities compare in terms of nightlife? How about parks and recreation?
Oakland's nightlife provides a nice alternative to San Francisco - it's less uptight and funkier. However, it doesn't have nearly the variety or quantity that SF has.
Not sure how it compares to Providence. I'd assume Providence has decent nightlife because of the colleges, although BBMM was saying he'd heard it had deteriorated.
I'm not sure about that - how far is the closest beach that you'd consider legit to Providence?
On a weekend day without much traffic (okay, maybe that's wishful thinking) Oakland is about a 45 minute drive from Half Moon Bay, 60 minutes from Stinson Beach, and 70 minutes from the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk.
I’m sure.
Nowhere in the State of Rhode Island is more than 40 minutes from a beach.
Providence is about 30 minutes from North Kingstown Beach and Narragansett Beach.
Less than 30 minutes to Plum Point Beach and Calf Pasture Beach.
Barrington Beach and Oakland beach are 10-20 minutes from Providence.
South Shore Beach is 44 minutes away.
All of the Newport Beaches are about 40 minutes away.
There are several more beaches I didn’t name. Driving 50 minutes in any direction from Providence will literally take you out of the state, or onto an actual island.
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