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I'm not referring to size or McMansions. There are plenty of condos here as well and many homes in the 1500 - 2000 sq ft range. There are great neighborhoods with newer homes that you don't need a budget in the $800,000's to get into.
If that is your budget .. you can get into much more desirable areas. I'm well aware of what's available in San Diego. It's a lot of old and run down houses with a huge "climate" tax prior to paying heavy property taxes.
A condo is great for a single person, but there has to be a place in Phoenix to house all of those inbound middle class California families.
Don't get me wrong, I love San Diego (and it's an easy drive to visit from the Phoenix area) .. but it still has the "California" problem.
As far as jobs and the economy, Phoenix is booming (even through Covid). Jobs in tech are growing like crazy. In fact, it's in the top five cities for tech job growth.
Recent news:
- Amazon making a huge office expansion for tech and corporate workers (not another logistic center).
- TSMC - Taiwan chip manufacturer for Apple is building a 12 Billion dollar semiconductor plant in Phoenix
- Intel - Just completed their 7 Billion dollar chip plant in Chandler.
Huh? I don’t consider a 5-6 hour drive through a barren desert and over a 4-5K mountain pass an easy drive? I’ve made that drive in early September to go to a Chargers game in Tempe and thought we’re fu**** if we have car troubles as it’s 115 out with no cell service. I know people do it all summer long to escape the heat, but I’d hardly call it an easy drive.
Lol this was my reaction.
I'm imagining a booster saying something like living in PHX "gives you access" to places like San Diego.
Have lived in SoCal for 14 years and have never been to Phoenix....its too far.
If climate were the only (or most important) factor that mattered in what impacts people's decision to move somewhere .. most of the country would live in San Diego.
The job market in the Phoenix metro currently is and has been much better .. and that gap will widen significantly in the future.
7.5 months out of the year the weather isn't much different than San Diego.
Ocean - advantage San Diego.
Housing costs, selection, and property taxes (yes, that is something to consider). Huge advantage Phoenix.
Easily SD over PHX. There are some nice things in PHX but overall it's profoundly unsustainable. (OH, and during monsoon season - there was none this year, fwiw, but there usually is from Jun-Sep - the heat is *not * a dry heat, which comes as a shock to newbies.)
I'm imagining a booster saying something like living in PHX "gives you access" to places like San Diego.
Have lived in SoCal for 14 years and have never been to Phoenix....its too far.
I've lived in SoCal for 51 years and have never been to Phoenix. But it's not so much that it's too far; we've driven farther to get to other locations. It's that there is no particular reason for us to go there. Let's face it, a person in Phoenix has more incentive to visit San Diego than vice versa, if only to visit the beach/escape the heat.
I've lived in SoCal for 51 years and have never been to Phoenix. But it's not so much that it's too far; we've driven farther to get to other locations. It's that there is no particular reason for us to go there. Let's face it, a person in Phoenix has more incentive to visit San Diego than vice versa, if only to visit the beach/escape the heat.
Yep, nothing to see here. The millions of visitors Phoenix already gets for events like Barrett Jackson auto auction, the Phoenix Open, Arabian Horse Show, Spring Training and countless other events already has us up to our eyebrows in fair weather visitors.
Easily SD over PHX. There are some nice things in PHX but overall it's profoundly unsustainable. (OH, and during monsoon season - there was none this year, fwiw, but there usually is from Jun-Sep - the heat is *not * a dry heat, which comes as a shock to newbies.)
The COL of SD has been beyond anything remotely sustainable for decades now. Yes, San Diego has a nearly perfect climate and Phoenix deals with a less comfortable season, much like a majority of the country does.
Looks like the "California problem" has come to Arizona. Prop 208 ready to pass and the state flipped to Dem for the presidential election.
Did you bother reading your link? This impacts a small % of the population in Arizona. The proposed tax kicks in when taxable income is at or above $250,000 for individuals or $500,000 for couples.
Yep, nothing to see here. The millions of visitors Phoenix already gets for events like Barrett Jackson auto auction, the Phoenix Open, Arabian Horse Show, Spring Training and countless other events already has us up to our eyebrows in fair weather visitors.
These sound lame.
I'd rather go hiking or visit Taliesen West
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