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Old 12-10-2020, 02:51 PM
 
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I was looking at metro populations for the United States and then read a handful of comments about which groups cities land in.
Being from the south and focusing more on them here as well, I came away with some questions:
1. Where do you draw the lines on which group each city falls into
- is it based on population?
- influence?
- national prestige and general recognition?
2. Does looking at the overall metro change the perception of the location?
-For instance, if the core city is porous, can the suburbs change the way it is viewed, and vice-versa.
3. How would you tier them (looking for the vast majority of southern cities (larger than 100,000) to included)
(The Deep South being Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, Kentucky) [adding Virginia, Oklahoma, and Missouri]
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Old 12-10-2020, 04:59 PM
 
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The American South
Georgia
South Carolina
Alabama
Mississippi
Tennessee
North Carolina
Louisiana
Arkansas (including Missouri south of U.S. Route 60)
Kentucky (minus Cincinnati suburbs, including Missouri Bootheel))
North Florida (north of Orlando)
South Virginia (from just north of Charlottesville on southward, including most of Shenandoah Valley and the part of West Virginia south of Charleston)

Capital of The American South: Atlanta

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_60#Missouri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Bootheel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missis...unty,_Missouri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_County,_Missouri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoddard_County,_Missouri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo,_Illinois
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Florida
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytona_Beach,_Florida
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_West_Virginia




The Deep South
South Carolina
Alabama
Mississippi
Louisiana
Georgia
North Florida
West Tennessee
The Arkansas Delta
Southeastern North Carolina

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_South
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Tennessee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas_Delta
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Fear_(region)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinston,_North_Carolina
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Old 12-11-2020, 06:50 AM
 
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Grouping purely based on city/metro population, here's my initial list. When you add in additional criteria, I could see some movement between cities in Tier 3 and Tier 4.

Tier I
Atlanta

Tier II
New Orleans
Memphis
Birmingham
Jacksonville

Tier III
Columbia
Charleston
Baton Rouge
Greenville

Tier IV
Augusta
Jackson
Lafayette
Huntsville
Mobile
Shreveport
Savannah
Tallahassee
Montgomery
Columbus
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Old 12-11-2020, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Calera, AL
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Huntsville is about as Deep South as the Yukon.
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Old 12-11-2020, 10:39 AM
 
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Huntsville is about as Deep South as the Yukon.
lol!

Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina. Outside of the major cities the whole state is pretty much the deep south.
Some parts of rural North Carolina, Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, and maybe Texas and Virginia could be included but for the most parts these states are not.
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Old 12-12-2020, 07:49 PM
 
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Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina. Outside of the major cities the whole state is pretty much the deep south.
I would also include the northern half of Florida (essentially north of a Tampa-Orlando-Melbourne line) and Texas east of a Dallas-Houston line as part of the "deep south."
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Old 12-12-2020, 07:54 PM
 
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Grouping purely based on city/metro population, here's my initial list. When you add in additional criteria, I could see some movement between cities in Tier 3 and Tier 4.

Tier I
Atlanta

Tier II
New Orleans
Memphis
Birmingham
Jacksonville

Tier III
Columbia
Charleston
Baton Rouge
Greenville

Tier IV
Augusta
Jackson
Lafayette
Huntsville
Mobile
Shreveport
Savannah
Tallahassee
Montgomery
Columbus
I mostly agree with this list, although I'd remove Memphis (I think it's more Mid-South) and I would include both Dallas and Houston in the Tier alongside Atlanta with a asterisk (* = it's debatable whether they should be considered "Deep South").
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Old 12-12-2020, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Ne
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Originally Posted by CincyExpert View Post
Grouping purely based on city/metro population, here's my initial list. When you add in additional criteria, I could see some movement between cities in Tier 3 and Tier 4.

Tier I
Atlanta

Tier II
New Orleans
Memphis
Birmingham
Jacksonville

Tier III
Columbia
Charleston
Baton Rouge
Greenville

Tier IV
Augusta
Jackson
Lafayette
Huntsville
Mobile
Shreveport
Savannah
Tallahassee
Montgomery
Columbus
No Charlotte?
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Old 12-12-2020, 10:44 PM
 
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No Charlotte?
Charlotte isn't deep south.
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Old 12-12-2020, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Ne
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Charlotte isn't deep south.
And Memphis is? C’mon
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