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This thread is a follow up to the one I did on racial diversity. The goal is to find the best way to rank places in terms of ethnic diversity. As usual, Im open to critique if someone has ideas.
First the total foreign born population
Combined Statistical Area(CSA) by Foreign Born Population 2019 over 300k listed
6,230,338 New York-Newark
5,529,651 Los Angeles-Long Beach
2,860,863 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
2,673,091 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale
1,770,979 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
1,670,425 Houston-The Woodlands
1,647,827 Chicago-Naperville
1,482,840 Dallas-Fort Worth
1,346,553 Boston-Worcester-Providence
923,059 Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
852,776 Seattle-Tacoma
776,316 Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
761,933 San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad
709,716 Phoenix-Mesa
640,792 Orlando-Lakeland-Deltona
516,123 Las Vegas-Henderson
509,017 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor
481,850 Sacramento-Roseville
461,368 Tampa-St Petersburg-Clearwater MSA
416,134 Denver-Aurora
404,370 Minneapolis-St Paul
386,259 Portland-Vancouver-Salem
350,067 Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown
Now to look at total numbers by Combined Statistical Area. Ill list all immigrant groups that have over 20,000 for the CSA:
New York/Newark CSA
Dominican Republic - 668,141
China - 521,439
India - 411,951
Mexico - 301,797
Jamaica - 277,031
Ecuador - 256,285
Colombia - 203,505
Haiti - 179,578
Guyana - 169,203
Philippines - 157,657
El Salvador - 154,533
Korea - 145,109
Guatemala - 128,473
Bangladesh - 117,930
Poland - 113,213
Italy - 112,354
Peru - 109,199
Trinidad and Tobago - 98,307
Russia - 93,057
Honduras - 91,766
Brazil - 88,575
Pakistan - 86,738
Ukraine - 84,447
United Kingdom - 83,678
Cuba - 63,201
Canada - 59,154
Egypt - 57,339
Ghana - 55,953
Nigeria - 52,440
Germany - 48,202
Portugal - 41,839
Taiwan - 38,129
Israel - 36,720
Greece - 36,418
Argentina - 33,846
Uzbekistan - 32,299
Japan - 32,528
Vietnam - 30,756
Venezuela - 29,639
France - 28,736
Ireland - 28,503
Barbados - 27,225
Albania - 26,986
Spain - 24,438
Turkey - 24,394
Costa Rica - 22,158
Romania - 21,104
Grenada - 20,625
Iran - 20,196
Los Angeles/Riverside CSA
Mexico - 2,194,499
Philippines - 396,425
El Salvador - 328,255
China - 323,610
Vietnam - 268,039
Guatemala - 235,054
Korea - 229,537
Iran - 145,735
India - 123,345
Taiwan - 94,759
Armenia - 67,289
Canada - 58,095
United Kingdom - 54,522
Japan - 53,690
Honduras - 49,376
Peru - 44,576
Thailand - 32,820
Cambodia - 31,519
Nicaragua - 31,102
Colombia - 30,192
Germany - 28,931
Egypt - 28,460
Russia - 26,924
Argentina - 26,130
Cuba - 25,219
Lebanon - 24,889
Indonesia - 23,153
Brazil - 22,893
Nigeria: 22,865
Miami/Port St. Lucie/Fort Lauderdale CSA
Cuba - 826,607
Haiti - 256,133
Colombia - 191,306
Venezuela - 153,090
Jamaica - 149,316
Nicaragua - 94,217
Mexico - 82,774
Honduras - 77,953
Dominican Republic - 70,128
Peru - 62,811
Brazil - 60,750
Guatemala - 60,120
Argentina - 41,800
Ecuador - 36,258
Canada - 34,646
El Salvador - 30,137
Trinidad in Tobago - 22,862
China - 22,632
Indian - 21,860
San Jose/San Francisco/Oakland CSA
Mexico - 677,838
China - 451,885
India - 301,609
Philippines - 284,997
Vietnam - 184,917
El Salvador - 80,513
Taiwan - 65,045
Korea - 56,467
Guatemala - 44,753
Iran - 41,755
United Kingdom - 38,503
Japan - 28,917
Germany - 27,128
Russia - 26,926
Nicaragua - 26,458
Afghanistan - 23,303
Pakistan - 22,755
Washington DC/Baltimore CSA
El Salvador - 218,799
India - 139,539
China - 79,424
Guatemala - 73,076
Korea - 69,988
Mexico - 68,302
Vietnam - 61,795
Philippines - 57,093
Ethiopia - 55,617
Honduras - 51,242
Peru - 46,071
Nigeria - 44,710
Pakistan - 36,829
Jamaica - 31,593
Ghana - 29,894
Cameroon - 26,020
Afghanistan - 25,247
United Kingdom - 24,282
Germany - 22,317
Colombia - 21,423
Iran - 21,380
Dominican Republic - 21,283
Nepal - 20,591
Houston/The Woodlands CSA
Mexico - 601,879
El Salvador - 135,456
Vietnam - 96,184
Honduras - 92,501
India - 90,063
Nigeria - 53,947
China - 49,807
Philippines - 43,951
Guatemala - 40,643
Venezuela - 38,887
Colombia - 30,500
Cuba - 29,005
Pakistan - 28,012
United Kingdom - 22,784
Boston/Worcester/Providence CSA
Dominican Republic - 131,852
China - 119,944
Brazil - 91,986
India - 90,958
Haiti - 63,261
Portugal - 62,685
Guatemala - 49,724
El Salvador - 39,473
Vietnam - 35,893
Canada - 34,303
Colombia - 32,273
Cabo Verde - 32,094
United Kingdom: 29,331
Jamaica - 21,199
Dallas/Fort Worth CSA
Mexico - 638,713
India - 143,850
El Salvador - 71,889
Vietnam - 55,611
China - 44,405
Nigeria - 32,430
Philippines - 31,631
Honduras - 25,841
Korea - 24,770
Nepal - 23,561
Guatemala - 21,417
Pakistan - 20,054
Chicago/Naperville CSA
Mexico - 587,427
India - 141,120
Poland - 118,226
Philippines - 81,311
China - 70,148
Korea - 36,354
Pakistan - 29,977
Ukraine - 26,316
Guatemala - 25,631
Atlanta/Athens/Clarke County CSA
Mexico - 172,414
India - 94,683
Vietnam - 46,600
Jamaica - 40,726
Guatemala - 37,041
Korea - 32,395
China - 29,137
Nigeria - 24,508
Honduras - 20,377
Philadelphia/Reading/Camden CSA
India - 90,963
Mexico - 67,613
China - 56,923
Dominican Republic - 51,989
Korea - 28,886
Vietnam - 25,485
Jamaica - 24,349
Philippines - 22,986
Orlando/Lakeland/Deltona CSA
Venezuela - 52,156
Colombia - 51,197
Haiti - 49,927
Mexico - 46,676
Cuba - 41,793
Dominican Republic - 40,535
Jamaica - 36,265
Brazil - 20,296
Seattle/Tacoma CSA
Mexico - 115,825
China - 86,044
India - 85,950
Philippines - 66,497
Vietnam - 51,080
Korea - 46,072
Canada - 34,986
Austin/Round Rock/Georgetown MSA
Mexico - 126,870
India - 36,563
Denver/Boulder CSA
Mexico - 158,316
CSA by number of immigrant groups over 20,000.
New York City - 49
Los Angeles/Riverside - 29
Washington DC/Baltimore - 23
Miami/Port St. Lucie/Fort Lauderdale - 19
San Jose/San Francisco - 17
Houston - 14
Boston/Providence/Worcester/Manchester - 14
Dallas/Fort Worth - 12
Chicago - 9
Atlanta - 9
Philadelphia - 8
Orlando - 8
Seattle/Tacoma - 7
Detroit - 7
San Diego - 6
Las Vegas - 5
Sacramento - 5
Tampa - 5
Phoenix - 4
Minneapolis/St. Paul - 4
Austin - 2
Denver - 1
To gage concentration, here is the total percentage the top 5 ethnic groups comprise by CSA. My reasoning is that the lower the number, the more diverse the CSA's immigrant and ethnic profile will be. A high number would reflect a higher concentration of fewer ethnic/immigrant groups.
Washington DC: 32.9%
New York/Newark: 35.0%
Boston/Providence/Worchester: 37.1%
Orlando: 37.8%
Philadelphia: 38.1%
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 40.1%
Detroit: 41.7%
Atlanta/Athens: 42.3%
Tampa: 44.0%
Seattle/Tacoma: 47.6%
Sacramento: 56.3%
Miami/Port St. Lucie/Fort Lauderdale: 59.1%
Chicago: 60.6%
Houston: 61.2%
Los Angeles/Riverside: 63.4%
Dallas/Fort Worth: 63.9%
Las Vegas: 65.2%
Phoenix: 65.8%
San Jose/San Francisco: 66.6%
San Diego: 66.9%
Below is the percentage of immigrants that moved from other parts of the US. The higher the number, the more the immigrant group comprises of immigrants that moved domestically. The lower the number, the more the immigrant community came from directly from their home country as opposed to having moved between cities domestically.
Orlando: 60.8%
Las Vegas: 56.2%
Denver: 56.0%
Atlanta: 54.0%
Philadelphia: 52.6%
Portland: 51.8%
Charlotte: 50.3%
Seattle/Tacoma: 47.2%
Austin: 44.4%
Phoenix: 42.6%
San Antonio: 42.3%
St. Louis: 41.5%
Baltimore: 40.8%
Tampa: 40.5%
San Diego: 39.1%
San Jose: 38.9%
Washington DC: 38.6%
Dallas/Fort Worth: 37.5%
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 35.7%
Detroit: 35.4%
Salt Lake City: 34.9%
New York City: 33.8%
San Francisco: 32.7%
Boston: 30.5%
Sacramento: 30.4%
Chicago: 29.6%
Houston: 29.3%
Los Angeles: 27.9%
Riverside: 25.9%
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 24.1%
Here are foreign languages speakers. This is by MSA:
Speaks Language other than English
New York: 7,220,912
Los Angeles: 6,767,624
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 3,208,634
Houston: 2,632,057
Chicago: 2,620,235
Dallas/Fort Worth: 2,270,226
San Francisco: 1,852,156
Riverside: 1,836,819
Washington DC: 1,739,876
Phoenix: 1,229,478
Boston: 1,165,645
San Diego: 1,150,415
San Jose: 1,088,315
Atlanta: 1,049,023
Philadelphia: 939,854
Seattle/Tacoma: 927,850
Orlando: 853,569
San Antonio: 833,215
Las Vegas: 739,422
Tampa: 684,056
Sacramento: 643,492
Austin: 593,600
Detroit: 577,718
Denver: 564,817
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 509,021
Portland, OR: 436,919
Fresno: 416,598
Charlotte: 353,085
Providence: 347,553
Baltimore: 338,365
This is really awesome! I will say though, maybe another formula can be: foreign born population/immigrants (historically and new of course), people born in the U.S but identify by their ethnic origin (so Italian instead of American for example, even though they were born in the U.S but they're ethnically Italian) and the total number of ethnic groups present within a metropolitan area.
When comparing ethnic diversity, I personally like to include all communities (even if there's only 500 people) and both foreign and national born people who identify with their origin. I also like to include language, so percentages of people who are bilingual, trilingual and how many languages are spoken in a metropolitan area overall. I think factoring all this will lead to a more robust way on tracking ethnic diversity and more accurately, since it'll be adding foreign/national born, all communities present and languages.
CSA by number of immigrant groups over 20,000.
New York City - 49
Los Angeles/Riverside - 29
Washington DC/Baltimore - 23
Miami/Port St. Lucie/Fort Lauderdale - 19
San Jose/San Francisco - 17
Houston - 14
Boston/Providence/Worcester/Manchester - 14
Dallas/Fort Worth - 12
Chicago - 9
Atlanta - 9
Philadelphia - 8
Orlando - 8
Seattle/Tacoma - 7
Detroit - 7
San Diego - 6
Las Vegas - 5
Sacramento - 5
Tampa - 5
Phoenix - 4
Minneapolis/St. Paul - 4
Austin - 2
Denver - 1
For the whole picture--not just a raw number that favors larger cities--consider the % of different nationalities above a specific threshold (ex. above 0.5% of MSA's population). https://www.migrationpolicy.org/prog...ropolitan-area
NYC may technically get one additional point for Vietnamese immigrants (barely above your 20K threshold), but ultimately it is #66 amongst all MSAs in terms of their concentration as a percentage of population size. In fact, every single MSA on this list has a higher % vietnamese immigrant population than NYC. So not sure that NYC deserves the 1 point compared to the others.
I appreciate the list though! Just something worth considering.
If I’m not mistaken there are over 20,000 Ethiopians living in DFW. I think there’s more Ethiopians in DFW than there are Nigerians. Could be wrong but I’ve seen numbers suggesting the number is well over 20,000.
This is really awesome! I will say though, maybe another formula can be: foreign born population/immigrants (historically and new of course), people born in the U.S but identify by their ethnic origin (so Italian instead of American for example, even though they were born in the U.S but they're ethnically Italian) and the total number of ethnic groups present within a metropolitan area.
When comparing ethnic diversity, I personally like to include all communities (even if there's only 500 people) and both foreign and national born people who identify with their origin. I also like to include language, so percentages of people who are bilingual, trilingual and how many languages are spoken in a metropolitan area overall. I think factoring all this will lead to a more robust way on tracking ethnic diversity and more accurately, since it'll be adding foreign/national born, all communities present and languages.
The biggest issue for me is I feel like there needs to be a threshold. Having a community of 500 anything in a place like NYC or LA wont amount to any significant impact on the city at large. That is why I drew the line at 20,000.
That said, you do have a point that 20K may be hard to evenly apply to a place like NYC vs a place like Austin. I did think about trying to find a way to draw it further down as CSA's got smaller, but I felt it would be too messy to draw that line. I may have been wrong though. Perhaps 20K is a good line for CSAs over 9 million, but as we get between 5-8 million maybe 15K is a better mark. As we get between 2 million and 5 million, maybe 10K is a better mark. After all, 20K Vietnamese in NYC wont have nearly the impact 10K Vietnamese would in Austin.
Point taken about American born ethnicities as well, but I think it depends on the ethnicity. For example, Texas is full of "Germans", but theyve been here for so long that I dont really consider counting them as anything other than American white. The American born Irish in Boston and Chicago would be other examples. They dont live much different from their other white counterparts. But for Hondurans or Ethiopians or Iraqis, etc. born in America there is a better chance they will stand out more for traditional American culture. So the question would be how can we organize that?
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If I’m not mistaken there are over 20,000 Ethiopians living in DFW. I think there’s more Ethiopians in DFW than there are Nigerians. Could be wrong but I’ve seen numbers suggesting the number is well over 20,000.
There are actually more Nigerians in DFW than Ethiopians. There are about 13K foreign born Ethiopians in DFW, though if you count first generations that moves up to about 25K.
What DFW does have that only DC, Minneapolis, and Seattle top is a very large East African population. DFW has the largest Kenyan and Tanzanian populations in the US. There are more East Africans in DFW than NYC!
But it didnt quite make the threshold for foreign born here.
For the whole picture--not just a raw number that favors larger cities--consider the % of different nationalities above a specific threshold (ex. above 0.5% of MSA's population). https://www.migrationpolicy.org/prog...ropolitan-area
NYC may technically get one additional point for Vietnamese immigrants (barely above your 20K threshold), but ultimately it is #66 amongst all MSAs in terms of their concentration as a percentage of population size. In fact, every single MSA on this list has a higher % vietnamese immigrant population than NYC. So not sure that NYC deserves the 1 point compared to the others.
I appreciate the list though! Just something worth considering.
Thats a good idea. Lets run with that.
Number of Immigrant groups that make up at least 0.5% of the CSA's population:
Miami/Port St. Lucie/Fort Lauderdale: 15
New York City: 15
Houston: 10
Washington DC/Baltimore: 10
Los Angeles/Riverside: 10
I think looking at regions of the biggest contributors is important too. Ill build off the list I made above. If were going to measure true diversity, the how heavily a CSA/MSA/City is weighted towards one region should count against it.
The numbers next to the city represent the number of countries that area has over 0.5% of the population. For example, the number 4 under Houston and "Central America", means there are 4 immigrant groups from Central America that make up more than 0.5% of the Houston CSA population (Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala in this case).
For simple sake of argument, I am going to leave Canada out of this ranking since they are culturally very similar to us and they are hard to geographically group apart from us. You can see where it ranked in my OP for the pertinent CSAs.
I am, however, going to count Puerto Ricans here. They are American, but a very distinctive ethnic group. All CSAs got a point in the Caribbean column for Puerto Ricans except: LA/Riverside, Portland, and Minneapolis/St. Paul where they did not make up 0.5% of the population.
Also of note, Mexico is included in Central America's number.
Anyway, here we go!
New York City/Newark
Caribbean: 4
Central America: 3
East and Southeast Asia: 3
South America: 2
South and West Asia: 2
Europe: 1
Houston/The Woodlands
Central America: 4
South and Southeast Asia: 3
Africa: 1
Caribbean: 1
South America: 1
South and West Asia: 1
Boston/Providence/Worcester
Caribbean: 3
Central America: 1
South America: 1
East and Southeast Asia: 1
South and West Asia: 1
Europe: 1
Sacramento/Roseville
East and Southeast Asia: 2
South and West Asia: 2
Europe: 1
Oceana: 1
Caribbean: 1
Central America: 1
Washington DC/Baltimore
Central America: 4
East and Southeast Asia: 4
South and West Asia: 1
Africa: 1
Caribbean: 1
San Jose/San Francisco
East and Southeast Asia: 5
Central America: 2
Caribbean: 1
South and West Asia: 1
Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia
East and Southeast Asia: 4
Caribbean: 1
South and West Asia: 1
Central America: 1
Dallas/Fort Worth:
Central America: 2
East and Southeast Asia: 2
South and West Asia: 1
Caribbean: 1
Atlanta/Athens/Sandy Springs
Central America: 2
Caribbean: 2
East and Southeast Asia: 1
South and West Asia: 1
Chicago/Naperville
East and Southeast Asia: 2
Central America: 1
Caribbean: 1
West and South Asia: 1
Philadelphia/Camden
Caribbean: 2
Central America: 1
East and Southeast Asia: 1
South and West Asia: 1
San Diego/Carlsbad
East and Southeast Asia: 3
South and West Asia: 2
Central America: 1
Caribbean: 1
Detroit/Ann Arbor
South and West Asia: 2
East and Southeast Asia: 1
Caribbean: 1
Central America: 1
Minneapolis/St. Paul
Africa: 1
Central America: 1
East and Southeast Asia: 1
South and West Asia: 1
Tampa/St. Petersburg
South America: 1
South and West Asia: 1
Caribbean: 1
Central America: 1
Phoenix/Mesa
Caribbean: 1
Central America: 1
East and Southeast Asia: 1
South and West Asia: 1
Austin/Round Rock/Georgetown
East and Southeast Asia: 2
Caribbean: 1
Central America: 1
South and West Asia: 1
Miami/Port St. Lucie/Fort Lauderdale
South America: 6
Caribbean: 5
Central America: 4
Los Angeles/Riverside
East and Southeast Asia: 5
Central America: 3
South and West Asia: 2
Orlando/Lakeland/Deltona
Caribbean: 5
South America: 2
Central America: 1
Las Vegas
Central America: 3
Caribbean: 2
South and Southeast Asia: 2
Charlotte/Concord
Central America: 3
Caribbean: 1
South and West Asia: 1
Portland/Salem
Central America: 1
East and Southeast Asia: 2
Europe: 1
Denver/Boulder
Caribbean: 1
Central America: 1
Here is how they scored by number of regions where each CSA had at least one country that contributes at least 0.5% to the total population:
New York City: 6
Houston: 6
Boston: 6
Sacramento: 6
Miami/Port St. Lucie/Fort Lauderdale: 3
Los Angeles/Riverside: 3
Orlando: 3
Las Vegas: 3
Charlotte: 3
Portland: 3
Denver: 2
Its important to remember this is just one piece of the puzzle. This is not to imply that somehow Philadelphia is more diverse than LA or Miami/Fort Lauderdale because it obviously isnt. However, when taking the data as a whole, it is enough to say that if two CSAs are very close in other diversity statistics, this could be a tie breaker.
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As Above So Below, are you sure the Bolivian foreign born in DC is not above 20k? I did not see it listed. The DC area had the highest Bolivian American population in 2010 at above 37,000, but not sure how many of those are/were "foreign born".
IIRC, in 2014 there were ~26,000 Irish Born Americans in Greater Boston after the 2011-2013 wave, per the Globe. Surprised not to see Ireland under Boston CSA. Would assume its close-ish to 30k now.
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