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Talking about seceding from their core cities, not the country. I'm not Vladimir Putin wishing America would break up. Buckhead is looking to do that from Atlanta, it could make sense for other nice, urban neighborhoods as well.
Without appropriate policing and a major reduction in out of wedlock births, places like Baltimore, St. Louis, and Cleveland will be high crime cities for the rest of their existence. Conservatives don't care enough and liberals hate holding people accountable for their actions, so it will be a challenge.
This will never happen in my lifetime (unless Civil War II happens) but I actually support the idea of autonomous states (basically becoming their own independent nations) but still have a union similar to the European Union (still use the dollar as currency). I feel that the one thing wrong with Georgia is that it's in America so the cities, especially Atlanta, has the same problem as most other US cities. I'm willing to bet that most of crimes committed are not by citizens born and raised in GA, whether it be recent transplants or people just visiting/passing through. People are worried about the wrong border and not willing to have this conversation, since they feel all of America should be treated as one/equal and like Southwest Airlines, they should be free to move about the country.
Hartford, CT 18---most homicides in New England and 75 shootings victims one more than Boston, Mass
Anchorage, Alaska 11
Peoria, IL 11
Knoxville, TN 21
Pine Bluff, AR 10
Honolulu, Hawaii 13
Billings, MT 2
Boston MSA Numbers
Boston- 17 (Was 23 this time in 2020)
i know there were issues in the usual Mattapan, Roxbury hotspots earlier this year, but why is Boston bucking the trend? Can't imagine the cops there backing off like they have in other cities.
i know there were issues in the usual Mattapan, Roxbury hotspots earlier this year, but why is Boston bucking the trend? Can't imagine the cops there backing off like they have in other cities.
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At about 1.6 per 100k, the U.S. white homicide rate is the same as Canada and the UK.
Baltimore is being bulldozed, the only reason it's not going faster is resources. Nearly 1 in 6 homes in the city is abandoned. Nobody is suggesting these places be kept up where they're in terrible disrepair and only serve as crackhouses. Not only the homes, but old factories need to be bulldozed too. Rough parts of Baltimore aren't just filled with boarded up homes, but factories with broken windows everywhere. There's no reason to keep them standing. If people in these areas had more power, you can bet more bulldozing would be in the infrastructure bill. Baltimore, Detroit, Cleveland, etc have been depopulated, by whites and blacks alike, and don't need anywhere near the number of buildings they currently have.
Policing also has to come back. I can't stand the cop unions, they make excuses for bad police that should be fired, but at the same time we've seen what happens with attempts to defund. In 2021, it's been a guarantee for more crime. Call in the National Guard, let the states get involved, allow portions of cities to secede and form new cities, as Buckhead is trying to do. People should not have to tolerate this level of crime because addressing it offends soft headed woke leftists.
Gentrification is also a key and a highly-educated population. Cost also can squeeze poverty out. Still it should not be a key way to prove some cities can have lower crime rates like a San Diego also with few hoods left. Still even that did not help a Portland that is a extreme case also. It shows that extreme groups can gain power and then promote the unrest even in a city that is wealthy and more White.
Weak Wokeness is a factor but also a excuse. Key is fringe groups of extremism NOT nipped in the but on either side. Either way.... this past year again was not like the 60s 70s of endless unrest by the late 60s into early 70s. We did not learn from that as we merely had it more staying in hoods. Now it is not and huge backlash.
I had a large reply to even another post.... just realizing this is not in the Politics forum.... it goes to much down that rabbit hole and not intended for this forum. Still you have some of us want to take it there going all Political by your post going there.... as my one did.
i know there were issues in the usual Mattapan, Roxbury hotspots earlier this year, but why is Boston bucking the trend? Can't imagine the cops there backing off like they have in other cities.
I can't explain off hand what has been bucking the trend? Maybe the stronger social safety net in Massachusetts, that helped people come out of Covid slightly better than other places?
Policing is an interesting one in Boston though and the metro area in general. Yeah, there are issues with targeting certain communities more than others like any major city, but in my experience, BPD is about as lax as they get when it comes to policing. Seriously they do the de-escalation thing better than more PD's so it's not like they backed off more or less than previously.
I can't explain off hand what has been bucking the trend? Maybe the stronger social safety net in Massachusetts, that helped people come out of Covid slightly better than other places?
Policing is an interesting one in Boston though and the metro area in general. Yeah, there are issues with targeting certain communities more than others like any major city, but in my experience, BPD is about as lax as they get when it comes to policing. Seriously they do the de-escalation thing better than more PD's so it's not like they backed off more or less than previously.
That and probably, im assuming, the current political atmosphere is the best its been in a few years. Yes not great, we know that. But better than it was? ayah.. Theres a glimmer of hop eand preoccupation of Bostonians atm.
That coupled with great COVID response/fast declining unemployment rate+generous unemployment benefits have helped Boston a lot relative to like.. Portland.. where murders are up like 700% 2 years YOY.
Sainte Sophie, QB: 2 (14.9 per 200K)
Prince Albert, SK: 5 (13.91 per 100K)
North Battleford, SK: 1 (7.20 per 100K)
Fort Eire, ON : 3 (9.77 per 100K)
Swift Current, SK: 1 (6.02 per 100K)
Prince George, BC: 4 (5.40 per 100K)
Glace Bay, NS: 1 (5.24 per 100K)
Yellowknife, NWT: 1 (5.11 per 100K)
Fort St. John: 1 (4.96 per 100K)
Georgetown, ON: 2 (4.74 per 100K)
Sarnia, ON: 4 (4.64 per 100K)
East Gwillimbury, ON: 1 (4.16 per 100K
North Bay, ON: 2 (3.88 per 100K)
Langley City, BC: 2 (3.86 per 100K)
Fort McMurray: 2 (3 per 100K)
New Tecumseth, ON 1 (2.41 per 100K)
Chilliwack, BC: 2 (2.38 per 100K)
Peterborough, ON: 2 (2.37 per 100K) Richmond, BC 5 (2.31 per 100K) Regina, SK: 5 (2.18 per 100K) Burnaby, BC: 5 (2.00 per 100K)
Brantford, ON: 2 (1.95 per 100K)
Red Deer, AB: 2 (1.93 per 100K) Winnipeg, MB: 14 (1.87 per 100K)
Sudbury, ON: 3 (1.81 per 100K) London, ON: 7 (1.72 per 100K)
Saint-Hyacinthe, QB: 1 (1.67 per 100K) Edmonton, AB: 16 (1.63 per 100K)
Caledon, ON: 1 (1.5 per 100K) Saskatoon, SK: 4 (1.46 per 100K)
New Westminster, BC: 1 (1.40 per 100K)
Surrey, BC: 7 (1.35 per 100K)
Abbotsford, BC: 2 (1.33 per 100K) Hamilton, ON: 7 (1.20 per 100K) Vancouver, BC: 8 (1.18 per 100K)
Moncton, NB: 1 (1.17 per 100K) Halifax, NS 5 (1.16 per 100K)
Kamloops, BC: 1 (1.10 per 100K)
Nanaimo, BC: 1 (1.10 per 100K)
Lethbridge, AB: 1 (1.07 per 100K)
Cape Breton, NS: 1 (1.06 per 100K)
Chatam-Kent, ON: 1 (0.94 per 100K)
Delta BC: 1 (0.90 per 100K)
Thunder Bay, ON: 1 (0.90 per 100K)
Windsor, ON: 2 (0.84 per 100K) Toronto, ON: 24 (0.82 per 100K)
Ajax, ON: 1 (0.82 per 100K) Ottawa, ON: 8 (0.80 per 100K)
Kelowna, BC: 1 (0.75 per 100K)
St Catharines, ON 1 (0.71 per 100K)
Coquitlam, BC: 1 (0.70 per 100K) Brampton, ON: 4 (0.66 per 100K) Montreal, QC: 10 (0.56 per 100K)
Richmond Hill, ON: 1 (0.47 per 100K) Laval, QC: 2 (0.45 per 100K) Calgary, AB: 5 (0.37 per 100K) Mississauga, ON: 3 (0.36 per 100K)
Gatineau, QB: 1 (0.35 per 100K)
Vaughan, ON: 1 (0.30 per 100K)
One thing to remember with Canadian cities is some, like Winnipeg and Calgary, account for virtually all of their metro population. At 1.87 per 100k Winnipeg is close to the annual pace of 4 per 100k in the SF Bay Area.
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Canada Cities/Suburbs Homicides 2021
