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Old 02-04-2021, 09:35 AM
 
Location: ADK via WV
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Which of these two states has better suburbs for their larger cities?

Texas: Dallas/Ft Forth, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, El Paso, etc...

Florida: Miami/Ft Lauderdale/West Palm, Orlando, Tampa/St Pete, Jacksonville, Ft Myers/Naples. etc...

Now I know what you urbanites are thinking... that all suburbs are pretty much the same. Yes, but no they aren't. Each region of the country tends to develop differently, have different architecture, offer different chain stores like grocery and fast food, and place different emphasis on things like recreation/parks, schools, walkability, density, etc...

So, which state has better suburbs?

Consider

architecture (similar styles compared to other parts of the country, but still distinct from each other)
density
road layouts (traffic circles/intersections/etc...)
walkability
access to transit (busses/commuter rail/light rail)
parks/recreation
amenities
grocery stores (Kroger/HEB vs Publix)
shopping/dining
unique features (like Florida subdivisions feature a lot of water)
uniformity (good or bad)

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Old 02-04-2021, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Texas suburbs are better in terms of being “all inclusive” where you don’t have to drive to the city for anything. But Florida’s are better designer to make you feel you’re fat away from civilization.

I prefer Florida’s model because no matters how goods Katy/Plano gets, it’ll never be Houston/Dallas.
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:16 AM
 
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This how I would break it down.

San Antonio and Austin suburbs > Jacksonville suburbs

Orlando and Tampa suburbs > San Antonio and Austin suburbs

Dallas & Houston suburbs > Jacksonville/Orlando/Tampa suburbs

Miami suburbs > Dallas and Houston suburbs

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Old 02-04-2021, 11:18 AM
 
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BTW, Dallas doesn't have H-E-B. The closest thing it has is Market Street.

Kroger simply isn't on the same level as H-E-B / Publix.
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:28 AM
 
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Texas suburbia is pretty bland. I like that Florida has some nice secondary cities like St. Pete and Ft. Lauderdale, whereas Texas only has Ft. Worth in that category. I also like the vacation/beach town suburbs that Florida has. (I guess the equivalent in Texas would be Galveston, Fredericksburg, and New Braunfels?)

I would take Texas for core cities however.
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:35 AM
 
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BTW, Dallas doesn't have H-E-B. The closest thing it has is Market Street.

Kroger simply isn't on the same level as H-E-B / Publix.
H-E-B Central Market has all the H-E-B brand items.
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:39 AM
 
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H-E-B Central Market has all the H-E-B brand items.
I know Dallas has Central Market, but it's not the same.

H-E-B is more like Publix, whereas Central Market is more like Whole Foods.
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Central Market is better than Whole Foods. Phoenicia is more in its caliber. I love shopping there.

But yeah they’re not the same at all. HEB is known for cheap prices. Central market isn’t.
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:50 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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I think that the sheer amount of waterway/ocean accessible suburbia differentiates it from Texas. On both the Gulf Coast, and along the Atlantic, the options for waterfront and water access gives Florida an edge in suburban variety that likely unmatched by any other state.
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:50 AM
 
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Central Market is better than Whole Foods. Phoenicia is more in its caliber. I love shopping there.

But yeah they’re not the same at all. HEB is known for cheap prices. Central market isn’t.
Is that a grocery store specific to Houston (I never heard of it until now)?

I was thinking a nationwide or super regional store that's most comparable to Central Market. Whole Foods would be the closest.
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