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View Poll Results: Which has better natural scenery? inside the beltway DC vs Atlanta (ITP)
Atlanta 58 47.15%
DC 65 52.85%
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Old 06-11-2021, 09:25 AM
 
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The portion of the Chattahoochee River ITP is better (or at a minimal, just as good) than anything on the Potomac inside the Beltway.

Atlanta wins this one, both when only including the ITP/Beltway areas and when including the entire metro area.
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Old 06-11-2021, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Rock Creek is a tiny stream.

The Potomac is quite large.

If we are talking MSA, The Potomac has beautiful areas such as Great Falls right outside of DC city limits. Beautiful, beautiful portion of the Potomac.

+ DC MSA has the Chesapeake Bay.


I’m not comparing those to the chattahoochee River btw. Just agreeing - Rock Creek is a stream...
I agree, the Potomac is beautiful upriver. I did a drive once from Frederick to Leesburg, and the river crossing was amazing. I can't remember the name, but there's a MARC station there. It was something like Point of the Rocks?
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Old 06-11-2021, 10:41 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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The portion of the Chattahoochee River ITP is better (or at a minimal, just as good) than anything on the Potomac inside the Beltway.

Atlanta wins this one, both when only including the ITP/Beltway areas and when including the entire metro area.
The Chattahoochee River is cool, and very underrated. The Potomac/ and Anacostia at that, are both true navigable riverfronts with all kinds of sights that you're able to view or access from those riverfronts. They're highly used for recreation, cruises etc., and simply more going on there, so just very different IMO. It's honestly apples to oranges. The views of the Chattahoochee you get are more similar to upstream on the Potomac heading to the Northwest towards Great Falls.

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Old 06-11-2021, 12:52 PM
 
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The portion of the Chattahoochee River ITP is better (or at a minimal, just as good) than anything on the Potomac inside the Beltway.

Atlanta wins this one, both when only including the ITP/Beltway areas and when including the entire metro area.
With all due respect, I have to say it simply appears that you don't know what you're talking about.

I have no idea what you mean by one river being "better" than the other, but objectively the Potomac/Anacostia offers a good bit more in terms of recreation and leisure than the Chattahoochee. Honestly there's just no contest. DC's geographic region is literally defined by bodies of water, whether you're talking the Chesapeake Bay or the mid-Atlantic, whereas Atlanta, like other Piedmont cities, isn't even a river city. With a few exceptions, once you get past the fall line going north, rivers simply play comparatively minimal roles in urban development compared to their coastal plain counterparts. This is why the Piedmont was considered the backcountry and had to be settled via the Great Wagon Road.

https://theculturetrip.com/north-ame...potomac-river/
https://washington.org/visit-dc/best...-washington-dc
https://www.ridetheboomerang.com/tours-cruises/
https://www.mountvernon.org/plan-you...ernon-by-boat/
https://www.visitalexandriava.com/th...nt-activities/
https://washington.org/visit-dc/wash...ont-activities
https://www.nps.gov/grfa/index.htm
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Old 06-11-2021, 01:06 PM
 
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With all due respect, I have to say it simply appears that you don't know what you're talking about.

I have no idea what you mean by one river being "better" than the other, but objectively the Potomac/Anacostia offers a good bit more in terms of recreation and leisure than the Chattahoochee. Honestly there's just no contest. DC's geographic region is literally defined by bodies of water, whether you're talking the Chesapeake Bay or the mid-Atlantic, whereas Atlanta, like other Piedmont cities, isn't even a river city. With a few exceptions, once you get past the fall line going north, rivers simply play comparatively minimal roles in urban development compared to their coastal plain counterparts. This is why the Piedmont was considered the backcountry and had to be settled via the Great Wagon Road.

https://theculturetrip.com/north-ame...potomac-river/
https://washington.org/visit-dc/best...-washington-dc
https://www.ridetheboomerang.com/tours-cruises/
https://www.mountvernon.org/plan-you...ernon-by-boat/
https://www.visitalexandriava.com/th...nt-activities/
https://washington.org/visit-dc/wash...ont-activities
https://www.nps.gov/grfa/index.htm
Yea regarding waterfronts there's no comparison.

Then there's the Anacostia River as well:

https://www.capitolriverfront.org/

https://www.newfrederickdouglassbridge.com/
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Old 06-11-2021, 01:12 PM
 
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With all due respect, I have to say it simply appears that you don't know what you're talking about.

I have no idea what you mean by one river being "better" than the other, but objectively the Potomac/Anacostia offers a good bit more in terms of recreation and leisure than the Chattahoochee. Honestly there's just no contest. DC's geographic region is literally defined by bodies of water, whether you're talking the Chesapeake Bay or the mid-Atlantic, whereas Atlanta, like other Piedmont cities, isn't even a river city. With a few exceptions, once you get past the fall line going north, rivers simply play comparatively minimal roles in urban development compared to their coastal plain counterparts. This is why the Piedmont was considered the backcountry and had to be settled via the Great Wagon Road.
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Which has a more scenic natural setting? Atlanta or DC. For this discussion, let's say inside the DC Beltway vs inside the Atlanta Perimeter Road. They are both 64 miles long, so this should be a pretty comparable land area.
we are limited to staying inside the perimeter for Atlanta and inside the Beltway for DC. Also, we are limited to natural scenery. Built environments do not play a part in the comparison, nor does anything outside the Beltway/Perimeter.
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Old 06-11-2021, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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By the OP's criteria:



we are limited to staying inside the perimeter for Atlanta and inside the Beltway for DC. Also, we are limited to natural scenery. Built environments do not play a part in the comparison, nor does anything outside the Beltway/Perimeter.

I can’t at all comment on Atlanta, but even within DC, the areas of the Potomac feels like you’re nowhere near a city.

If anyone is curious of the natural beauty of the Potomac in DC, I suggest looking up Fletchers Cove.

I like to go out there and rent canoes or grill out on the shore.
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Old 06-11-2021, 02:06 PM
 
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By the OP's criteria:



we are limited to staying inside the perimeter for Atlanta and inside the Beltway for DC. Also, we are limited to natural scenery. Built environments do not play a part in the comparison, nor does anything outside the Beltway/Perimeter.
Yea but how does ITP Chattahoochee beat out Potomac even naturally? Don't get me wrong, Chattahoochee is a great river and I feel this would be alot closer if we were comparing the entire metro, but Potomac is literally double if not triple the size in some areas. Chattahoochee is also industrialized Southwest of Atlanta RD which accounts for about half of its ITP section.
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Old 06-11-2021, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Yea but how does ITP Chattahoochee beat out Potomac even naturally? Don't get me wrong, Chattahoochee is a great river and I feel this would be alot closer if we were comparing the entire metro, but Potomac is literally double if not triple the size in some areas. Chattahoochee is also industrialized Southwest of Atlanta RD which accounts for about half of its ITP section.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s way more than triple in size.
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Old 06-11-2021, 06:16 PM
 
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My sense is the Chattahoochee River is that it is a cross between upper portion of the Potomac with rapids
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8903...8i4096!5m1!1e4
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9329...!7i8704!8i4352

and then downstream is more like Upper Anacostia a narrower slower river
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8246...8i8192!5m1!1e4
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9179...7i16384!8i8192
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