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Old 06-01-2022, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Impressed by both Houston and Dallas here.
What is most fascinating to me is how different the foreign born black growth patterns are between Dallas and Houston. Houston is very West Africa dominated but also has a Caribbean component. Dallas has no Caribbean component, but has a much more diverse African population and African growth component.
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Old 06-01-2022, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Below is the same data among Hispanics. Foreign born Hispanic growth from 2010-2020.

Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 325,304
Houston: 173,041
New York City: 149,396
Washington DC: 90,191
Orlando: 78,555
Dallas/Fort Worth: 76,297
Boston: 66,278
Tampa: 60,857
Charlotte: 33,272
Philadelphia: 28,856
San Antonio: 28,115
Austin: 24,581
Las Vegas: 24,252
Fort Myers: 22,637
Seattle/Tacoma: 21,060
Atlanta: 18,215
Jacksonville: 16,320
Oxnard: 15,463
Riverside/San Bernardino: 13,699
McAllen: 12,689
New Orleans: 11,127
Providence: 10,422
Nashville: 9,403
Baltimore: 9,238
Oklahoma City: 8,096
Hartford: 6,701
Richmond: 6,693
Virginia Beach: 6,674
Indianapolis: 6,537
Detroit: 6,115
Salt Lake City: 5,721
Cincinnati: 5,381
Grand Rapids: 4,901
Kansas City: 3,749
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 3,569
Denver: 3,432
Cleveland: 3,180
San Diego: 2,628
Columbus: 2,429
Raleigh: 1,433
Sacramento: 377

Portland: -1,587
Fresno: -3,554
Brownsville: -3,984
Tucson: -4,133
Corpus Christi: -4,849
Phoenix: -4,917
El Paso: -7,290
San Francisco: -13,515
San Jose: -16,452
Chicago: -48,737
Los Angeles: -226,082

I think there are two trends at play here:

1) Metro areas that depend overwhelmingly on Mexican immigration for their foreign born Hispanic communities are losing due to net negative migration to there. The flip side is that places that are magnets for Central Americans or Caribbean Hispanics are growing massively.

2) High costs of living are effecting migration.
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Old 06-01-2022, 10:21 PM
 
Location: New York, N.Y.
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Can you do south Asian / specifically Pakistani, Sri Lankan, Bangladeshi, Nepali and Indian?
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Old 06-01-2022, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Below is the same data among Hispanics. Foreign born Hispanic growth from 2010-2020.

Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 325,304
Houston: 173,041
New York City: 149,396
Washington DC: 90,191
Orlando: 78,555
Dallas/Fort Worth: 76,297
Boston: 66,278
Tampa: 60,857
Charlotte: 33,272
Philadelphia: 28,856
San Antonio: 28,115
Austin: 24,581
Las Vegas: 24,252
Fort Myers: 22,637
Seattle/Tacoma: 21,060
Atlanta: 18,215
Jacksonville: 16,320
Oxnard: 15,463
Riverside/San Bernardino: 13,699
McAllen: 12,689
New Orleans: 11,127
Providence: 10,422
Nashville: 9,403
Baltimore: 9,238
Oklahoma City: 8,096
Hartford: 6,701
Richmond: 6,693
Virginia Beach: 6,674
Indianapolis: 6,537
Detroit: 6,115
Salt Lake City: 5,721
Cincinnati: 5,381
Grand Rapids: 4,901
Kansas City: 3,749
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 3,569
Denver: 3,432
Cleveland: 3,180
San Diego: 2,628
Columbus: 2,429
Raleigh: 1,433
Sacramento: 377

Portland: -1,587
Fresno: -3,554
Brownsville: -3,984
Tucson: -4,133
Corpus Christi: -4,849
Phoenix: -4,917
El Paso: -7,290
San Francisco: -13,515
San Jose: -16,452
Chicago: -48,737
Los Angeles: -226,082

I think there are two trends at play here:

1) Metro areas that depend overwhelmingly on Mexican immigration for their foreign born Hispanic communities are losing due to net negative migration to there. The flip side is that places that are magnets for Central Americans or Caribbean Hispanics are growing massively.

2) High costs of living are effecting migration.
It’s interesting because Seattle seems to be a counterexample to your #2 statement. Seems to be an outlier in terms of it having fairly moderate Hispanic growth, being a very expensive place to live and also overwhelmingly Mexican in terms of Latin American immigration. I wonder what the explanation is.

Perhaps it’s sort of a sub-trend of the overall massive migration of Californians to Western Washington which is still ongoing. Still, it doesn’t seem to fully explain that.
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Old 06-02-2022, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Medfid
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It’s interesting because Seattle seems to be a counterexample to your #2 statement. Seems to be an outlier in terms of it having fairly moderate Hispanic growth, being a very expensive place to live
Boston’s also high on the list despite COL. Granted it does meet his first point about being dominated by Caribbean and Central American immigrants more so than Mexicans.
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Old 06-02-2022, 07:41 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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Im going to do a deeper into non-Hispanic foreign born black populations and where they are coming from. Top 5 countries listed:

Washington DC
Ethiopia: 23,351
Nigeria: 9,056
Cameroon: 8,665
Jamaica: 6,988
Ghana: 6,802

Houston
Nigeria: 28,243
Cameroon: 4,978
Jamaica: 4,134
Kenya: 2,528
Ethiopia: 2,508

Dallas/Fort Worth
Nigeria: 13,046
Ethiopia: 7,662
Kenya: 5,581
Cameroon: 5,464
Ghana: 3,661

Miami/Fort Lauderdale
Haiti: 34,327
Jamaica: 19,310
Trinidad and Tobago: 4,325
Bahamas: 899
Barbados: 831

Atlanta
Jamaica: 12,330
Nigeria: 8,063
Ethiopia: 5,401
Ghana: 3,814
Kenya: 2,029

Minneapolis/St. Paul
Somalia: 9,584
Ethiopia: 9,268
Kenya: 5,866
Liberia: 2,927
Nigeria: 1,266

New York City
Nigeria: 11,554
Ghana: 11,062
Jamaica: 9,994
Haiti: 7,942
Kenya: 3,449

Boston
Haiti: 13,768
Cabo Verde: 8,297
Jamaica: 4,198
Nigeria: 3,125
Uganda: 2,110

Orlando
Haiti: 16,190
Jamaica: 9,065
Nigeria: 897
Trinidad and Tobago: 767
Bahamas: 454

Philadelphia
Haiti: 5,095
Nigeria: 4,707
Jamaica: 4,755
Liberia: 3,362
Ghana: 2,245

Seattle/Tacoma
Ethiopia: 9,447
Kenya: 4,450
Somalia: 3,311
Eritrea: 2,751
Haiti: 244
It's interesting that you don't see as much African immigration to Florida. Texas is just killing it with African immigration. And I'm surprised that Haitian immigration hasn't eclipsed Jamaica in NY yet. Also, as I've said a clear Southern trend for Jamaicans
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Old 06-02-2022, 07:43 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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Yeah I ran into many Cameroonians in DC.
They're super common in Prince George's.
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Old 06-02-2022, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Can you do south Asian / specifically Pakistani, Sri Lankan, Bangladeshi, Nepali and Indian?
I can. Just give me time.

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It’s interesting because Seattle seems to be a counterexample to your #2 statement. Seems to be an outlier in terms of it having fairly moderate Hispanic growth, being a very expensive place to live and also overwhelmingly Mexican in terms of Latin American immigration. I wonder what the explanation is.

Perhaps it’s sort of a sub-trend of the overall massive migration of Californians to Western Washington which is still ongoing. Still, it doesn’t seem to fully explain that.
There are going to be some trends that mirror domestic migration. Seattle isnt like Austin or Dallas, but it is somewhat like Houston where there is still some domestic in-migration but its very reliant on international immigration. It is hard to compartmentalize everything into one basket, but I do think the overall trends are that metro areas that are very high COL or rely heavily on Mexican immigration for Hispanic immigration are hit heaviest. It explains the drop in Los Angeles and Chicago. It also explains the difference between Dallas and Houston. Both Dallas and Houston have similar sized Mexican communities but Dallas is not really a magnet for Central Americans (outside Salvadorans) or Caribbean Hispanics. However, Houston very much is.

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Boston’s also high on the list despite COL. Granted it does meet his first point about being dominated by Caribbean and Central American immigrants more so than Mexicans.
Boston is especially dominated by Dominicans however Guatemala shows up strong for Boston too. Ill do a breakdown in a bit.
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Old 06-02-2022, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Honestly Boston PROPER feels like it has more Somalians and Ethiopoisn than Ugandas.

I certainly run into more of them than I do Ugandans.. albeit I know Ugandans and Kenyans are fast-growing groups in the city's black population.
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Old 06-02-2022, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Here is the breakdown of ethnicity for some of the bigger gainers for the Hispanic Population.

Miami/Fort Lauderdale
Cuba: 157,763
Venezuela: 74,969
Colombia: 33,442
Dominican Republic: 11,685
Honduras: 9,267

Houston
Honduras: 31,375
El Salvador: 27,760
Venezuela: 22,545
Cuba: 20,880
Guatemala: 14,306

New York City
Dominican Republic: 141,629
Colombia: 17,210
Guatemala: 13,926
El Salvador: 12,992
Honduras: 5,933

Washington DC
El Salvador: 37,049
Guatemala: 13,828
Honduras: 12,930
Peru: 7,932
Colombia: 5,487

Orlando
Venezuela: 28,325
Colombia: 11,470
Cuba: 10,804
Dominican Republic: 10,207
Peru: 4,299

Dallas/Fort Worth
El Salvador: 18,913
Mexico: 16,326
Honduras: 8,483
Guatemala: 7,586
Venezuela: 7,446

Boston
Dominican Republic: 26,249
El Salvador: 14,951
Guatemala: 8,711
Colombia: 4,614
Honduras: 2,573

Tampa
Cuba: 32,714
Colombia: 8,448
Venezuela: 7,557
Dominican Republic: 5,302
Honduras: 3,605

Charlotte
Honduras: 9,611
Dominican Republic: 4,005
El Salvador: 3,470
Mexico: 3,176
Venezuela: 1,787

Philadelphia
Dominican Republic: 16,364
Guatemala: 3,899
Honduras: 3,179
El Salvador: 2,614
Colombia: 1,994

San Antonio
Mexico: 17,958
Honduras: 2,798
Cuba: 2,084
El Salvador: 1,696
Guatemala: 505

Austin
El Salvador: 3,985
Honduras: 3,838
Mexico: 3,820
Cuba: 3,766
Venezuela: 1,944

Las Vegas
Cuba: 10,614
El Salvador: 5,124
Guatemala: 2,517
Honduras: 1,737
Venezuela: 807

Seattle/Tacoma
Guatemala: 3,607
El Salvador: 3,275
Mexico: 3,030
Venezuela: 1,277
Peru: 1,047

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