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Your connotation applies to a very specific demogrpahic of people. They are two very different cities with extremely different cultures, economics and demographics due to the regions they are located in. Different boats for different folks.
That doesn't inherently make one city better than the other, it just makes them different.
I'd say it's the most impactful demographic of people making alot of physical changes to either city, no?
Are San Diego neighborhoods not being gentrified with young professionals (mostly white) buying up properties and attributing to the housing issues in both cities? I could be wrong about San Diego.
What's so different about their cultures? Demographics are very similar minus Denver's smaller Asian population. Both AR overwhelming white and Hispanic with small black populations, that's similar to me.
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Originally Posted by Losfrisco
San Diego has way more in common with Baltimore than Denver.
Care to elaborate?
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Originally Posted by KodeBlue
Why do you think that is? Honest question.
Denver and San Diego have simply gentrified quicker than Baltimore, leading to the higher cost of living that, factually speaking, white people are better able to afford. And the neighborhoods that are prime for gentrification are inner city neighborhoods, there are no bad neighborhoods that border downtown Denver anymore, although the same can't be said for Baltimore. Having tons of options where college graduates can spend some of that tech money is important to attracting those types. Also having an industry that actively hires young grads at high wages. Both of the latter statements also heavily favor the upper middle class white population.
Upper middle class white people are the fastest growing demographic in Baltimore after Hispanics.
Metro Baltimore is just 6% Hispanic, 1/3rd the national average. It's easy to grow when starting off an extremely low base.
Baltimore's cheap, but its wages are lower, it ranks 16th in avg wages among metros with > 1 million jobs, San Diego is 9th, Denver is 7th. San Diego also blows it away in biotech, raising 20x-30x as much VC in that industry. Baltimore biotech is almost all government funded, not venture funded. Its presence in the commercial side of of the industry in minimal while San Diego has both.
In terms of the cities themselves, goes without saying they don't compare. San Diego is an amazing coastal city, Baltimore is....well, Baltimore.
Yeah, Baltimore has a lower COL, but so do Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and plenty of other cities like that.
Metro Baltimore is just 6% Hispanic, 1/3rd the national average. It's easy to grow when starting off an extremely low base.
Baltimore's cheap, but its wages are lower, it ranks 16th in avg wages among metros with > 1 million jobs, San Diego is 9th, Denver is 7th. San Diego also blows it away in biotech, raising 20x-30x as much VC in that industry. Baltimore biotech is almost all government funded, not venture funded. Its presence in the commercial side of of the industry in minimal while San Diego has both.
In terms of the cities themselves, goes without saying they don't compare. San Diego is an amazing coastal city, Baltimore is....well, Baltimore.
Yeah, Baltimore has a lower COL, but so do Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and plenty of other cities like that.
Agree that Baltimore’s Hispanic population is tiny, so any growth is a little misleading. As far as location goes, it depends on the what a person is looking for, but the warm weather and beauty of SD would likely put it as number 1. Denver has skiing and also some nice nature, which people may enjoy equally; for people, Baltimore would be last in this category too. Baltimore does not really have a white collar industry that it’s known for. SD is definitely much stronger than Baltimore in biotech. Denver is an up and coming city for many areas of tech.
Metro Baltimore is just 6% Hispanic, 1/3rd the national average. It's easy to grow when starting off an extremely low base.
Baltimore's cheap, but its wages are lower, it ranks 16th in avg wages among metros with > 1 million jobs, San Diego is 9th, Denver is 7th. San Diego also blows it away in biotech, raising 20x-30x as much VC in that industry. Baltimore biotech is almost all government funded, not venture funded. Its presence in the commercial side of of the industry in minimal while San Diego has both.
In terms of the cities themselves, goes without saying they don't compare. San Diego is an amazing coastal city, Baltimore is....well, Baltimore.
Yeah, Baltimore has a lower COL, but so do Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and plenty of other cities like that.
I was refering to city proper.
Baltimore
62.4% Black
30.5% White
5.5% Hispanic
2.4% Asian
SD
65.1% White
16.7% Asian
6.4% Black
5.6% Other
I don't really see how thats a knock on Baltimore when San Diego is ranked 14th out of 173 cities in COL and is 141% higher than the national average.
Comparing Baltimore's bio-tech industy to SD's is about as relevant as comparing SD airline industry to Denver's.
Yeah, its an amazing coastal city, but at what cost?... SD isn't the ultimate unicorn of american living and I'm saying this as an SD resident. Every city has its pros and cons whether it be economics, ergonamics or demographics, but if you choose to be purposely obtuse to them thats on you, not the city.
Cleveland and Pittsburgh aren't bad cities so whats the point you're getting at by comparing Baltimore with them?
Agree that Baltimore’s Hispanic population is tiny, so any growth is a little misleading. As far as location goes, it depends on the what a person is looking for, but the warm weather and beauty of SD would likely put it as number 1. Denver has skiing and also some nice nature, which people may enjoy equally; for people, Baltimore would be last in this category too. Baltimore does not really have a white collar industry that it’s known for. SD is definitely much stronger than Baltimore in biotech. Denver is an up and coming city for many areas of tech.
I was refering more to percentege rather than raw numbers. The city only has ~33k Hispanics as of 2021.
I do agree with that location is interly dependent on what people are looking for and if the location meets those needs than it will be at the forefront of that demographics needs/wants.
Baltimore obvisouly doesn't compete in the natural scenery department but your average person moving to Baltimore doesn't move to that city for it's geographic beauty in the first place so that "box tick" is irrelevant. Just like your average person moving to Denver doesn't want/need to be near a world renowed beach or a historic harbor waterfont. Just like your average person moving to SD doesn't have public transportaion or year round sking on thier mind. Different boats for different folks.
You could come up with a million reason why anyone would want to (or not want to) live in each city
I'd say it's the most impactful demographic of people making alot of physical changes to either city, no?
Are San Diego neighborhoods not being gentrified with young professionals (mostly white) buying up properties and attributing to the housing issues in both cities? I could be wrong about San Diego.
What's so different about their cultures? Demographics are very similar minus Denver's smaller Asian population. Both AR overwhelming white and Hispanic with small black populations, that's similar to me.
Care to elaborate?
Sure.
Dug up these little known facts after quite a bit of research.
San Diego and Baltimore are ocean port cities within a much larger contiguous population area and Denver is a random settlement in Colorado.
Why people insist on lumping the Denver and San Diego together is still something I'm trying to figure out.
I was refering more to percentege rather than raw numbers. The city only has ~33k Hispanics as of 2021.
I do agree with that location is interly dependent on what people are looking for and if the location meets those needs than it will be at the forefront of that demographics needs/wants.
Baltimore obvisouly doesn't compete in the natural scenery department but your average person moving to Baltimore doesn't move to that city for it's geographic beauty in the first place so that "box tick" is irrelevant. Just like your average person moving to Denver doesn't want/need to be near a world renowed beach or a historic harbor waterfont. Just like your average person moving to SD doesn't have public transportaion or year round sking on thier mind. Different boats for different folks.
You could come up with a million reason why anyone would want to (or not want to) live in each city
San Diego MTS Trolley dwarves Baltimore's combined subway/light rail system in both length and ridership.
Not sure if you were implying Baltimore is some sort of transit leader in that post, but most people probably believe it is one regardless of any supporting facts.
Baltimore isn't a transit leader, but its transit commute stats are at least less bad than San Diego's. Metro area commute shares in the 2019 Census ACS:
Baltimore: 5.9%
Denver: 4.5%
SD: 2.8%
Joakim3 said "public transportation," which doesn't just refer to rail.
Metro Baltimore is just 6% Hispanic, 1/3rd the national average. It's easy to grow when starting off an extremely low base.
Baltimore's cheap, but its wages are lower, it ranks 16th in avg wages among metros with > 1 million jobs, San Diego is 9th, Denver is 7th. San Diego also blows it away in biotech, raising 20x-30x as much VC in that industry. Baltimore biotech is almost all government funded, not venture funded. Its presence in the commercial side of of the industry in minimal while San Diego has both.
In terms of the cities themselves, goes without saying they don't compare. San Diego is an amazing coastal city, Baltimore is....well, Baltimore.
Yeah, Baltimore has a lower COL, but so do Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and plenty of other cities like that.
Are you gonna keep the same energy in regards to SD's black low population?
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