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Old 01-15-2022, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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San Diego MTS Trolley dwarves Baltimore's combined subway/light rail system in both length and ridership.

Not sure if you were implying Baltimore is some sort of transit leader in that post, but most people probably believe it is one regardless of any supporting facts.
Public transportation isn't just Light Rail.

Baltimore's MTA bus ridership alone is over 80 million which is almost equal to the entierty of SD MTS. Baltimore's still has Light Rail, an actual Rapid Transit System (ablight limited), Water Taxi, Amtrack and Penn Line options. I wasn't implying it's some sort of gold standard for transit, but all the supporting facts show Baltimore having better public transportation than SD and if not for public transportation people do move to the city to live a car free lifestyle.

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Old 01-15-2022, 07:15 PM
 
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How are San Diego and Denver soooo different? They are fast growing cities, basically the same size, with lots of outdoor recreational activities, white collar jobs, Mexican food abundant, craft beer cities, etc... they are almost twins.
I can't tell if you are serious or trolling... How is a laid back beach town with some military and Mexicans mixed in a twin city to a hipster mountain city that is cold 2/3 of the year?
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Old 01-15-2022, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Sure.

Dug up these little known facts after quite a bit of research.


San Diego and Baltimore are ocean port cities within a much larger contiguous population area and Denver is a random settlement in Colorado.


Why people insist on lumping the Denver and San Diego together is still something I'm trying to figure out.
Is this the only similarities you could find for Baltimore and San Diego? That's not even a bad comparison, thats terrible.



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I can't tell if you are serious or trolling... How is a laid back beach town with some military and Mexicans mixed in a twin city to a hipster mountain city that is cold 2/3 of the year?
Denver is also a laid back mountain town with military and Mexicans.... I can't tell if you're serious?
San Diego is 28% Hispanic and Denver is 29%, Denver has Buckley Space Force base in nearby Aurora, San Diego has a naval base, both are hipster mountain cities too. Baltimore certainly isn't a beach town with some Mexicans so I fail to see how they are more similar. Newsflash, Baltimore is also cold for half the year.
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Old 01-16-2022, 01:29 AM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Is this the only similarities you could find for Baltimore and San Diego? That's not even a bad comparison, thats terrible.


The fact that they are ocean port cities overrides everything else. They probably don't have that much in common, but that's more than enough when we're talking about a place like Denver.

I'm sorry but Denver and San Diego have absolutely nothing in common.
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Old 01-16-2022, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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The fact that they are ocean port cities overrides everything else. They probably don't have that much in common, but that's more than enough when we're talking about a place like Denver.

I'm sorry but Denver and San Diego have absolutely nothing in common.
Ocean ports is all you got?

Denver and San Diego share basically the same Hispanic population, both sit next to mountains. That's 100% more comminalities than you.
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Old 01-16-2022, 01:34 AM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Public transportation isn't just Light Rail.

Baltimore's MTA bus ridership alone is over 80 million which is almost equal to the entierty of SD MTS. Baltimore's still has Light Rail, an actual Rapid Transit System (ablight limited), Water Taxi, Amtrack and Penn Line options. I wasn't implying it's some sort of gold standard for transit, but all the supporting facts show Baltimore having better public transportation than SD and if not for public transportation people do move to the city to live a car free lifestyle.
San Diego has the largest light rail system of any MSA under 6 million people.

There are two commuter lines to complement this, with of course, Bus/BRT lines.

Two of the top 25 Amtrak stations are in San Diego.

Its completely plausible that someone would choose to live in San Diego specifically for public transportation.
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Old 01-16-2022, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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San Diego has, by far, the largest light rail system of any MSA under 6 million people.

There are two commuter lines to complement this, with of course, Bus/BRT lines.

Two of the top 25 Amtrak stations are in San Diego.

Its completely plausible that someone would choose to live in San Diego specifically for public transportation.
San Diego has 3 light rail lines? Denver has 8 currently.
Denver has 4 commuter lines to complement this, and some fake BRT as well.
Is not really advisable for people to live without a car in all but like 5 cities in the US, neither San Diego or Denver make the cut.
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Old 01-16-2022, 01:43 AM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Ocean ports is all you got?

Denver and San Diego share basically the same Hispanic population, both sit next to mountains. That's 100% more comminalities than you.
Just lol.


San Diego has mountains cutting through the city in addition to the mountains in East County.

Denver itself is as flat as Columbus or Kansas City.

You might as well say they both have paved roads and sidewalks at this point.
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Old 01-16-2022, 02:09 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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San Diego has the largest light rail system of any MSA under 6 million people.

There are two commuter lines to complement this, with of course, Bus/BRT lines.

Two of the top 25 Amtrak stations are in San Diego.

Its completely plausible that someone would choose to live in San Diego specifically for public transportation.
Again, I'm not knocking it's light rail system... I use it almost everyday to get to work and it's eons better than Baltimore's.

So does Baltimore's? BWI Station ranks higher than both of San Diego's stations let alone Penn Station. Baltimore's heavy rail commuter numbers dwarf San Diego's any way you slice it.

Sure its plausible that somene could choose to live in SD for it's public transportation, but I'd be willing to make a sizable wager thats not at the forefront of the vast majority of people minds when they think about moving to city.

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Old 01-16-2022, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Just lol.


San Diego has mountains cutting through the city in addition to the mountains in East County.

Denver itself is as flat as Columbus or Kansas City.

You might as well say they both have paved roads and sidewalks at this point.
Baltimore doesn't even have mountains in its state....
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