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OK, Politics is one area I would give Stockton points on from a statewide perspective.
I would rate Boise better for street level activity, urbanity, nearby outdoors within 15 minutes.
Climate is a wash, as some prefer no snow and others want 4 seasons. Boise's winters are usually mild, but not always.
For Day trips, I would go with Stockton, as it is no contest with Yosemite, NAPA Valley, Bay Area, Sacto, Reno, etc nearby.
Boise does have the Owyhee Mountains and Canyons, Sun Valley, Payette River whitewater, and McCall/Cascade with their gorgeous lakes.
Who wins these categories?
Crime
Skiing
Immediate wine country (Lodi vs Snake River Valley)
Friendliness of people
Pollution
Biking
Kayaking/Canoeing
Sailing
Fishing/Hunting
Skiing-I dont know but Stockton isnt that far from the Sierra Nevada
Immediate wine country (Lodi vs Snake River Valley)-Stockton
Friendliness of people-Boise, people there were nice generally speaking imo, Stockton is a mix of country people and big city attitude(from all the bay area expats) without the big city amenities.
Pollution-Boise
Biking-Boise
Kayaking/Canoeing-Boise
Sailing-Boise
Fishing/Hunting-Boise
All this outdoorsy stuff favors Boise for sure, and as I stated earlier, if we are looking just at cities proper, Boise just crushes Stockton. My bestest friend from church moved from the Bay Area to Meridan, ID a few years ago because he was expanding his family's business that way, so we have visited a few times and it's a great area, and I can understand why folks would want to leave the rat race here for a calmer pace and less drama there---PLUS keep in mind we're talking about Stockton, which is quite possibly the most disjointed city in California as far as the lack of established neighborhoods and amenties. Stockton has a downtown but it is really depressed, Boise's downtown is clean, has amenities, and a pleasant place to be.
At the same time, one can't ignore where Stockton is located, 80-something miles from San Francisco.
As all the west's "medial darling" cities start to resemble California housing costs.
I'm starting to think that the historically "bad" parts of the Central Valley are starting to look a lot better these days.
Boise is way too cold!
Average month temps
Stockton
Nov - 64/43
Dec - 54/39
Jan - 54/39
Feb - 61/42
Mar - 66/45
Boise
Nov - 45/31
Dec - 37/24
Jan - 37/24
Feb - 46/29
Mar - 56/35
Any Coastal California "weather sensitive" person looking to relocate should know any place besides the Central Valley is not going to give you "California Weather". Just about every other place is going to be either hotter than the Central Valley in the summer and/or colder than the Central Valley in the winter. Boise included.
TBH, Stockton is a steal then. That's almost half of San Diego for still one of the best climates, all the things the river/delta brings, and skiing is almost as accessible in Stockton as it is in Boise.
Going off Redfin, the average home in Boise is more than Portland!
Skiing-I dont know but Stockton isnt that far from the Sierra Nevada
Immediate wine country (Lodi vs Snake River Valley)-Stockton
Friendliness of people-Boise, people there were nice generally speaking imo, Stockton is a mix of country people and big city attitude(from all the bay area expats) without the big city amenities.
Pollution-Boise
Biking-Boise
Kayaking/Canoeing-Boise
Sailing-Boise
Fishing/Hunting-Boise
All this outdoorsy stuff favors Boise for sure, and as I stated earlier, if we are looking just at cities proper, Boise just crushes Stockton. My bestest friend from church moved from the Bay Area to Meridan, ID a few years ago because he was expanding his family's business that way, so we have visited a few times and it's a great area, and I can understand why folks would want to leave the rat race here for a calmer pace and less drama there---PLUS keep in mind we're talking about Stockton, which is quite possibly the most disjointed city in California as far as the lack of established neighborhoods and amenties. Stockton has a downtown but it is really depressed, Boise's downtown is clean, has amenities, and a pleasant place to be.
At the same time, one can't ignore where Stockton is located, 80-something miles from San Francisco.
Anyhow, to each his own.
You can be on a boat and sailing the Pacific ocean from Stockton. Wtf are you sailing in Boise? A river?
Stockton summer = Boise winter
Bad but tolerable
Boise doesn't have mild winters, Stockton does.
Worse air quality in Stockton, but boises air quality will be worsening because of the large increases in people. Californias stricter standards will be helpful in the long run.
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Originally Posted by Felt38
OK, Politics is one area I would give Stockton points on from a statewide perspective.
I would rate Boise better for street level activity, urbanity, nearby outdoors within 15 minutes.
Climate is a wash, as some prefer no snow and others want 4 seasons. Boise's winters are usually mild, but not always.
For Day trips, I would go with Stockton, as it is no contest with Yosemite, NAPA Valley, Bay Area, Sacto, Reno, etc nearby.
Boise does have the Owyhee Mountains and Canyons, Sun Valley, Payette River whitewater, and McCall/Cascade with their gorgeous lakes.
Who wins these categories?
Crime
Skiing
Immediate wine country (Lodi vs Snake River Valley)
Friendliness of people
Pollution
Biking
Kayaking/Canoeing
Sailing
Fishing/Hunting
You can be on a boat and sailing the Pacific ocean from Stockton. Wtf are you sailing in Boise? A river?
Stockton summer = Boise winter
Bad but tolerable
Boise doesn't have mild winters, Stockton does.
Worse air quality in Stockton, but boises air quality will be worsening because of the large increases in people. Californias stricter standards will be helpful in the long run.
You can be on a boat and sailing the Pacific ocean from Stockton. Wtf are you sailing in Boise? A river?
Stockton summer = Boise winter
Bad but tolerable
Boise doesn't have mild winters, Stockton does.
Worse air quality in Stockton, but boises air quality will be worsening because of the large increases in people. Californias stricter standards will be helpful in the long run.
Lmao yea man I'm sure that Stockton, CA is full of people sailing the Pacific on a regular basis.
You can be on a boat and sailing the Pacific ocean from Stockton. Wtf are you sailing in Boise? A river?
Stockton summer = Boise winter
Bad but tolerable
Boise doesn't have mild winters, Stockton does.
Worse air quality in Stockton, but boises air quality will be worsening because of the large increases in people. Californias stricter standards will be helpful in the long run.
You technically can be, but the trip out to the Pacific coast isn't actually all that fast and so I don't think it's really a particularly common thing to do for people in Stockton.
The Central Valley's bad air quality is a combination of many things that are a lot more than just the sheer number of people living there. Its geography makes it a bit of trap for air pollutants and much of the main industry of the Central Valley relies heavily on things that cause a lot of air pollution. I do think California's striving to make headway on this, but I'm not sure we'll see the average annual air quality of Stockton become better than that of Boise in the near or mid term future. I do think it can within this decade get dramatically better than what it has been in the recent past though.
Stockton 70F - Bright Sun, light breeze, clean air, a 45 minute drive-up the Sierras, Highway 88 or 4 you have all the snow you'll ever want with full sun and pleasant.
Boise winters are actually milder than it’s northern latitude would suggest.
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