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View Poll Results: Houston vs Dallas for Black Professionals
Houston 54 69.23%
Dallas 24 30.77%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-23-2022, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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I don't think anyone would disagree with you on the point that NYC/DC/ATL have the most black people with college degrees. But the point you made in your other post along the lines of "obviously the more black people you have, the greater the gap in black businesses is" isn't true. I don't have the stats but Houston does have a notable volume of black businesses relative to the population and it doesn't surprise me that the gap is so low because a lot of people (of all colors) move to Houston (and Texas as a whole) specifically to start businesses due to the business-friendly nature of the area. If it was as simple as "NYC/DC/ATL have more black people so obviously there's a bigger gap when it comes to black businesses" wouldn't it be true that less black/smaller metros would have an inherent advantage over Houston in that same vein?

TLDR version - it doesn't surprise me that Houston has one of the largest (relative to the total black population),strongest black business communities in the country, DC/NYC/ATL included.
That’s fair and you’re probably right, but the thread is about Black professionals so educational attainment and median income among Black people is a bigger indicator of that.

If we’re being honest, you don’t even need to be professional to start a business. Plenty of Black people have businesses that wouldn’t be considered Black professionals among the Black elite. I guess we would have to decide whether this comparison involves social class. I don’t know how important that is for Houston and Dallas.
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Old 05-23-2022, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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. I don't have the stats but Houston does have a notable volume of black businesses relative to the population and it doesn't surprise me that the gap is so low because a lot of people (of all colors) move to Houston (and Texas as a whole) specifically to start businesses due to the business-friendly nature of the area.
very true
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Old 05-24-2022, 02:07 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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What about Black professionals 35 and over? Someone who is into the pink collar field. Doesn't have to be 6 figures but not too far off. More urban/dense(with sidewalks) but lack of an underclass like up north. Middle class, basically.

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Old 05-24-2022, 07:33 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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I don't think anyone would disagree with you on the point that NYC/DC/ATL have the most black people with college degrees. But the point you made in your other post along the lines of "obviously the more black people you have, the greater the gap in black businesses is" isn't true. I don't have the stats but Houston does have a notable volume of black businesses relative to the population and it doesn't surprise me that the gap is so low because a lot of people (of all colors) move to Houston (and Texas as a whole) specifically to start businesses due to the business-friendly nature of the area. If it was as simple as "NYC/DC/ATL have more black people so obviously there's a bigger gap when it comes to black businesses" wouldn't it be true that less black/smaller metros would have an inherent advantage over Houston in that same vein?

TLDR version - it doesn't surprise me that Houston has one of the largest (relative to the total black population),strongest black business communities in the country, DC/NYC/ATL included.
Do Houston have more black owned businesses than Dallas?

Based on this thread it seems like Houston is the strong #4 in black American for young professionals. (NYC/DC/ATL being 1-3 no order).

I do have big reservations on the state government/politics however. Personally, I would not move to Houston or Dallas because of the state government, regardless of how nice the cities are. I wonder if any other black professionals here feel the same.
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Old 05-24-2022, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I do have big reservations on the state government/politics however. Personally, I would not move to Houston or Dallas because of the state government, regardless of how nice the cities are. I wonder if any other black professionals here feel the same.
The state government here is garbage. But the state governments in California and New York are also garbage. It just depends on the type of garbage one is willing to tolerate. The low regulation but Draconian Bible Thumping kind or the over regulation, in your business, over taxed kind.
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Old 05-24-2022, 08:02 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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The state government here is garbage. But the state governments in California and New York are also garbage. It just depends on the type of garbage one is willing to tolerate.
Eh. Of those three states, there are clear differences particularly in taxation, public services, public education, infrastructure, abortion rights, gun laws, etc.

I suppose it definitely depends on your personal politics and what you're willing to tolerate, but a place like Texas, while fostering a state where one can do quite well economically, seems openly hostile to folks like me and that look like me. I think it's important in these discussions to not only talk about what city is better for black folks but also how the state government can affect one's lived experiences there. For example I would be vary vary wary of raising black children in Texas.
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Old 05-24-2022, 08:06 AM
 
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This might have been covered, but I'm curious if Dallas has any city neighborhoods that would appeal to black professionals or that they go with?

Also, between the Best Southwest outside of Dallas or the Fort Bend suburbs, which would you say has the higher black middle class suburban concentration?
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Old 05-24-2022, 09:41 AM
 
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Do Houston have more black owned businesses than Dallas?

Based on this thread it seems like Houston is the strong #4 in black American for young professionals. (NYC/DC/ATL being 1-3 no order).

I do have big reservations on the state government/politics however. Personally, I would not move to Houston or Dallas because of the state government, regardless of how nice the cities are. I wonder if any other black professionals here feel the same.
I’d actually put Houston #3 or tied with NYC. As far as current buzz, I’ll put Houston #1. It’s really interesting that Houston isn’t top 5 in raw black numbers but punches above its weight in black culture and offerings. Houston’s black culture is the dominant culture in Houston, despite Houston’s diversity and the black numbers’ being the third largest in the city and metro area.
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Old 05-24-2022, 10:21 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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I’d actually put Houston #3 or tied with NYC. As far as current buzz, I’ll put Houston #1. It’s really interesting that Houston isn’t top 5 in raw black numbers but punches above its weight in black culture and offerings. Houston’s black culture is the dominant culture in Houston, despite Houston’s diversity and the black numbers’ being the third largest in the city and metro area.
That's probably a fair ranking. Do you anticipate Houston's dominant culture staying Black? Particularly as the Hispanic and Asian populations continue to grow as well?
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Old 05-24-2022, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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That's probably a fair ranking. Do you anticipate Houston's dominant culture staying Black? Particularly as the Hispanic and Asian populations continue to grow as well?
Despite the continuous Asian growth, they’re well behind Hispanic, Black and White to become the dominant culture in Houston. Houston really has no racial dominant culture in 2022, it’s too diverse to put it in one. If anything, it’s a mix of things.

Black culture is basically the dominant pop culture of the United States at this point in time and this trickles down well to Houston.
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