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This zip code below is in the suburbs of Dallas. Are there any zip codes like this below in Dallas proper? I'm trying to find a comparison to Third Ward.
Desoto in Dallas
Zip Code 75115 (Land Area = 21.9 square miles)
Total Percentage Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 28.7%
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 7,091 Black people
Yes there is a reason why documentaries and such were made about the Black population in the best southwest areas. Cedar Hill, De Soto, Lancaster, and Duncanville. Duncanville to a lesser extent compared to those two due to demographics. The other cities have a population of at least 50% Black with a growing median income. I think the only suburb in Houston equivalent to this is maybe Missouri City but I wouldn’t put it on the level of these Dallas suburbs tbh. Peatland has a decent size Black population but it’s the third largest in the city. Getting very diverse down there though.
I don’t know if there is an equivalent in Dallas proper. Perhaps somewhere in the Southern parts of Dallas.
DeSoto is a suburb. If your looking for suburban wealth that’s a much easier shortlist.
Dallas-
Arlington/Grand Prairie and Mansfield around Joe Pool Lake.
Cedar Hill
DeSoto
Lancaster
Duncanville
The last 4 communities make up the Best Southwest region. Which is probably the biggest collection of black Wealth in Texas. I like the Arlington/Grand Prairie/Mansfield area more though. Cedar Hill is considered the gem of that region. New points like Glenn Heights/Red Oak/Oak Leaf are emerging just South of that region.
Away from this area Plano has a large-ish black community that does well, as well as Garland and Irving. The City of Fort Worth is another sleeper with it pre-pandemic having a fairly low crime rate for an urban city that’s 20% black.
Houston
Pearland (Specifically around Shadow Creek)
Atascocita/Humble/Summerwood (More Atascocita than Humble)
Missouri City
Richmond (Around 77406)
Manvel is emerging.
Katy- lower black population but extremely well off in 77494 and areas around it.
This also applies to suburbs like Cypress and Spring. They aren’t very black but about the national average in many of their really nice neighborhoods.
No, I'm looking for city proper zip codes. I realized it was a suburb after looking at it. Do you know of any zip codes in Dallas proper?
I agree with the sentiment of way more black people but I heavily disagree with less space. Texas counties are big but Harris+Galveston+Fort Bend+Northern Brazilian literally have the 1.15 million black people. Harris plus Northern Fort Bend had 1,050,000 black people. The latter is only 2,000 square miles. Including the MSA is pointless when the vast majority of black people live in one locality, and the borders of two others. With Southern Galveston County being the largest separated black community in the MSA.
I crunched the numbers to get an accurate picture of Black professionals versus Black people in NYC/DC/ATL vs. Houston:
NYC (New York) = 300.5 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 348,132 Black people Source
DC Original Diamond/PG County (Washington D.C.) = 585.33 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 221,288 Black people Source
Fulton/Dekalb County (Atlanta) = 795 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 183,067 Black people Source
Compared to Houston below:
Harris County (Houston) = 1,703 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 153,932 Black people Source
Houston doesn't have as many Black people with a bachelor's degree in even 3 times the land mass as NYC and DC. It also doesn't have as many as Atlanta in almost 2 times the land mass.
Last edited by MDAllstar; 05-23-2022 at 01:55 PM..
I crunched the numbers to get an accurate picture of Black professionals versus Black people in NYC/DC/ATL vs. Houston:
NYC (New York) = 300.5 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 348,132 Black people Source
DC Original Diamond/PG County (Washington D.C.) = 585.33 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 221,288 Black people Source
Fulton/Dekalb County (Atlanta) = 795 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 183,067 Black people Source
Compared to Houston below:
Harris County (Houston) = 1,703 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 153,932 Black people Source
Houston doesn't have as many Black people with a bachelor's degree in even 3 times the land mass as NYC and DC. It also doesn't have as many as Atlanta in almost 2 times the land mass.
That's because there's more black people in all of those places. Best way to calculate this is as a rate when looking at the total black population. I still think Houston would probably be fourth in that metric, but at least its apples to apples.
That's because there's more black people in all of those places. Best way to calculate this is as a rate when looking at the total black population. I still think Houston would probably be fourth in that metric, but at least its apples to apples.
No, for context, the point I was making is Houston is sprawling at every level and when compared to the big 3 in the same land footprint, NYC/DC/Atlanta have way more Black people and way more Black people with a bachelors degree too. This was my post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDAllstar
You can't compare Houston to the big 3 Black professional mecca's. There are way more Black people in NYC, DC, and Atlanta than Houston in less space. Double the Black population actually. Obviously, the more Black people you have, the larger the gap in Black owned businesses compared to the Black population will be.
1. NYC MSA = 6,720 sq. miles (3,367,769 Black people)
2. DC/Baltimore MSA's = 8,166.07 sq. miles (2,430,255 Black people)
3. Atlanta MSA = 8,376 sq. miles (2,089,494 Black people)
Compared to: Houston MSA = 10,062 sq. miles (1,223,778 Black people)
There are more Black people with college degrees in a 3-hour drive from DC/Baltimore/Philly/NYC than anywhere else in the country by a huge margin. The total Black population in that 3-hour corridor is over 20% of the Black people living in America.
I crunched the numbers to get an accurate picture of Black professionals versus Black people in NYC/DC/ATL vs. Houston:
NYC (New York) = 300.5 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 348,132 Black people Source
DC Original Diamond/PG County (Washington D.C.) = 585.33 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 221,288 Black people Source
Fulton/Dekalb County (Atlanta) = 795 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 183,067 Black people Source
Compared to Houston below:
Harris County (Houston) = 1,703 sq. miles
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 153,932 Black people Source
Houston doesn't have as many Black people with a bachelor's degree in even 3 times the land mass as NYC and DC. It also doesn't have as many as Atlanta in almost 2 times the land mass.
Here is a bigger stat that is pretty significant looking at just the metro areas from DC-NYC.
United States of America
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 6,005,623 people
Northeast 2-hour Drive Radius
DC Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 389,125 people
Baltimore
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 149,550 people
Total DC/Baltimore 30-minute drive radius Bachelor's degree or higher (Black people) = 538,675 people
Philadelphia
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 183,196 people
New York
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 596,237 people
Total DC/Baltimore/Philly/NYC 2-hour drive radius bachelor's degree or higher (Black people) Total = 1,318,108
Atlanta
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 412,608 people
Houston
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 220,895 people
Dallas
Total Raw Number Bachelor's degree or higher (Black People) = 213,764 people
Some key takeaways, the NYC and DC/Baltimore area's each have close to 10% of the Black people with a bachelor's degree in the US. Those two areas together make up around 20% of the Black people with Bachelors in America alone. Atlanta, NYC, and DC/Baltimore combined make up close to 30% of the Black people with Bachelors degrees in America. That is staggering!
Even more staggering is the DC/Baltimore/Philly/NYC 2-hour drive radius makes up around 22% of the Black bachelor's degrees in America.
Last edited by MDAllstar; 05-23-2022 at 04:23 PM..
No, for context, the point I was making is Houston is sprawling at every level and when compared to the big 3 in the same land footprint, NYC/DC/Atlanta have way more Black people and way more Black people with a bachelors degree too. This was my post:
There are more Black people with college degrees in a 3-hour drive from DC/Baltimore/Philly/NYC than anywhere else in the country by a huge margin. The total Black population in that 3-hour corridor is over 20% of the Black people living in America.
I don't think anyone would disagree with you on the point that NYC/DC/ATL have the most black people with college degrees. But the point you made in your other post along the lines of "obviously the more black people you have, the greater the gap in black businesses is" isn't true. I don't have the stats but Houston does have a notable volume of black businesses relative to the population and it doesn't surprise me that the gap is so low because a lot of people (of all colors) move to Houston (and Texas as a whole) specifically to start businesses due to the business-friendly nature of the area. If it was as simple as "NYC/DC/ATL have more black people so obviously there's a bigger gap when it comes to black businesses" wouldn't it be true that less black/smaller metros would have an inherent advantage over Houston in that same vein?
TLDR version - it doesn't surprise me that Houston has one of the largest (relative to the total black population),strongest black business communities in the country, DC/NYC/ATL included.
So this thread about Houston and Dallas was made to boost DC and the northeast? I don't get it
No, some poster from Houston said this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by JYHTOWN
Also according to census ACS 2019 data the Houston metro has the smallest gap between it's share of black owned businesses and share of black population(-0.8) of any metro.
ATL, DC, and NYC all have -4.1, -4.1, -7.3 respectively.
That’s when the comparison to Atlanta, DC, and New York started. The point was Houston doesn’t compare to them so it’s not apples to apples especially when talking about businesses to population ratios.
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