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View Poll Results: Is Boston more similar to SF or Philly?
San Francisco 25 28.41%
Philadelphia 63 71.59%
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Old 05-22-2022, 09:26 AM
 
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Boston has a higher poverty rate than literally every single one of those “failed mill cities” except Lawrence. And Lawrence’s poor population almost entirely foreign not from Boston. All those “failed mill cities” have lower crime and better public school than Boston.

Almost nothing you said is based on reality. Boston’s poverty rate is nearly identical to what it was in 1990. Which means there are more poor people now than in 1990 in the city of Boston

The people moving to like Brockton are middle class who want to buy like a $375,000 house and have a little yard. Not the poor.
Boston only has 75,000 non-luxury rental units. They’re losing 3,000 units every 5 years to condo conversions and that trend is accelerating. By state law, Boston can’t do anything about small building conversions. Do the math. The next generation in the generational poverty cycle is going to be displaced out of Boston. Welcome to Springfield and Fall River.
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Old 05-22-2022, 09:33 AM
 
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Boston only has 75,000 non-luxury rental units. They’re losing 3,000 units every 5 years to condo conversions and that trend is accelerating. By state law, Boston can’t do anything about small building conversions. Do the math. The next generation in the generational poverty cycle is going to be displaced out of Boston. Welcome to Springfield and Fall River.
You didn’t it will happen you says it is happening/has happened when it’s hasn’t happened.
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Old 05-22-2022, 09:43 AM
 
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Philly, slightly.Much much deeper and more ties. More similar city politics, climate, architecture, infrastructure and slightly more similar demography especially metro wide. It’s not a landslide but having been tonSF to visit family and Ohilky with family and friends- it’s Philly by a little bit.
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Old 05-22-2022, 09:45 AM
 
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m. The next generation in the generational poverty cycle is going to be displaced out of Boston. Welcome to Springfield and Fall River.
Doubt it, honestly.

Those cities have seen declining poverty rates the past 10 years. There’s not enough housing units for large -a# people there anyway. The poor are artificially restricted and contained into Boston for a variety of reasons.
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Old 05-22-2022, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Boston has a superiority complex
Yes. A very big one. It’s a great city but the people in Boston think 98% of other cities are inferior/ Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:08 AM
 
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Boston has a superiority complex
White Boston has a superiority complex. Black Boston is too busy trying to prove that "we're just like you" to other black Americans for us to have a superiority complex.
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:25 AM
 
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White Boston has a superiority complex. Black Boston is too busy trying to prove that "we're just like you" to other black Americans for us to have a superiority complex.
Yes that-but there are 2x as many white Bostonians so…*shrug heavily*

Some Hispanics in Boston have the superiority complex, some.
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:27 AM
 
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White Boston has a superiority complex. Black Boston is too busy trying to prove that "we're just like you" to other black Americans for us to have a superiority complex.
To be fair, both cities black populations have inferiority complexes, for different reasons.
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Old 05-22-2022, 11:33 AM
 
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To be fair, both cities black populations have inferiority complexes, for different reasons.
Yes that’s accurate. Tbh Boston is just a lot more similar to Philly on a metro and culture level than it is SF. Mainline-=MetroWest, Old Money Philly=Boston Brahmins, Irish Italian influence. Puerto Rican influence, similarly density, big concentrations of colleges in the city, finance/banking, some West Indians, distinct local food known around the country.

There’s a SF vibe/ Bay Area vibe to Boston that totally lacks in Philly though. Boston similarity to SF is more about economics/expense and water location (which is a lot less important than being in the BosWash together).

Anecdotally- native white Bostonian (or at least to the metro) are pretty similar to white Philadelphians, probably more so than any other city. But Black Bostonians are more similar to Black New Yorkers and even have some similarities to those in the Bay Area.
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Old 05-22-2022, 12:58 PM
 
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I grew up here in the Bay Area and Southern California. Visited Boston the first time in the ‘80’s and enjoyed it. Always thought (at least from aesthetics, tech/biotech industry, progressive politics, and education levels) that Boston felt and looked a lot like San Francisco.
omg yes: with its post Big Dig densifying metro, albeit, late to the party (finally), but, more than ever. looking at a lot of current projects, labs, highrises topping out, and still more labs, height/ density coming....

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Have cousins living in the Boston area and when they visit Northern California, they remark about the similarities.
Utterly: all throughout, up down, all around to the foothills of the Sierra. The only thing that's pushing it down would be all the overbuilding around Sacramento/ Loomis, etc....... where everywhere out to the Berkshires and White Mountains is still, pretty much as pristine as always.

The similarities between Boston and Philly are there, but SF edges out Philly for substantive, less superficial similarities.
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