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View Poll Results: Is Boston more similar to SF or Philly?
San Francisco 25 28.41%
Philadelphia 63 71.59%
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Old 05-22-2022, 05:53 PM
 
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I couldn't disagree more with this. In fact, I would argue that no Black population in any large American city really has an inferiority complex vis-a-vis any other city because the Black populations in most of the large cities (NYC, LA, Chi, Philly, Houston, DC, Atlanta) all have fairly distinctive cultures and personalities.

Native black Philadelphians are some of the staunches Negadelphians (and for good reason). The city with the highest (black) unemployment rate, (black) poverty rate, and homicide rate doesn't have an inferiority complex? Please. Ask any black native what's the best thing to do in Philly and their answer will be "leaving".

City has shirts of "No one likes us, we don't care" and "Keep NY out of Philly" If that doesn't scream inferiority complex I don't know what does.
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Old 05-22-2022, 05:55 PM
 
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I remember taking a RE cert course in Randolph a few years back. The woman teaching the courses was a successful broker in her own right and her niche was exactly what you described. Boston based clientele looking to move to Avon, Randolph, but mostly Brockton to upsize and get the family-sized SFH. Seemed to be a robust market for that.

On the other hand, idk if the poverty rates tells the whole story. The highest poverty neighborhoods in Boston are Fenway, Mission Hill, and Allston. All them are around 40% poverty rates. The students skew it a lot, and though Boston has always had a lot of students, but enrollment numbers likely outpace overall city growth since 1990.



I feel like NYC/Boston rivalry isn't active anymore outside of sports. It's not really a good look for either city. NYC obviously looks bad taking shots at a much smaller city and has a billion better things to brand itself with. Boston doesn't get anything out of it either since it's so firmly established in its own lane.

Boston is definitely one of those cities that captures peoples' imaginations throughout the country, probably moreso than NYC. When you talk about being from Boston peoples' eyes will light up with interest. It's like a city that everyone has had a taste of but many have only just had that much so they are interested to hear more about it.

With NYC so many more people have lived there or spent significant time there that when someone brings it up the conversation is more likely to go like talking about what neighborhoods and venues they frequented and comparing experiences than curiosity about the city.

On the other hand, this is just talking domestically and really within a specific age/income demographic where it seems like just about everyone has done a stint or at least a summer in NYC at some point in their lives. Talking globally, NYC would capture imaginations like that around the world. Boston is known internationally too, but probably not going to get the spark in as many eyes overseas like NYC
Boston childhood poverty in many zip codes is very high. As recently as 2011 Roxbury Dorchester and Mattapan all had higher childhood poverty rates than they did in 1990.


Poverty worsening in Hub, study says
42% of children poor in hardest-hit areas Economy, high costs widen the income gap

Poverty concentrated, deepening in Mattapan, Dorchester, and Roxbury - The Boston Globe

Overall the Boston metro has seen an increase in lower income households since 1990.
https://www.tbf.org/news-and-insight...sperity-report

I’m not convinced that poverty is decreasing in Boston in any significant way. It’s just middle income and lower middle incomes are decreasing.

You’re very right when you say your from Boston (white) peoples eyes lit by up and they are VERY interested for all the reasons you stated. People ah e had a sample and it has like some magical folklore people get really excited about. 1000% their eyes definitely light up.

People DO have way more familiarity with New York so it seems to have les a mystique, people she traveled through formed opinions etc.

Black people think Boston is more of a small town and are very unlikely to visit, not interested in the city generally.

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Old 05-22-2022, 06:00 PM
 
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Notice you did not include Boston in this list.



Boston has its own distinct style lol. Look at you ma boy, nobody dissing Boston, you got a superior complex like everyone else here, Im proud of you..
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Old 05-22-2022, 06:07 PM
 
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To be fair, both cities black populations have inferiority complexes, for different reasons.
Could you expand on this a little bro? From where I'm at Philly has a well-respected, robust, known black culture. What is there to feel inferior about? Outside of childish jabs like Philly is "dirty" or "rundown". And even then, that's really an indictment on the city itself rather than black Philly directly.
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Old 05-22-2022, 06:10 PM
 
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Boston has its own distinct style lol. Look at you ma boy, nobody dissing Boston, you got a superior complex like everyone else here, Im proud of you..
Ijs I do think. It’s black populations in those cities have an inferiority complex but in different ways.
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Old 05-22-2022, 06:12 PM
 
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Could you expand on this a little bro? From where I'm at Philly has a well-respected, robust, known black culture. What is there to feel inferior about? Outside of childish jabs like Philly is "dirty" or "rundown". And even then, that's really an indictment on the city itself rather than black Philly directly.
They take it as a reflection on their city, and thus them- most Philadelphians traditionally harbor and inferiority complexes to NYC directly. Or really dislike people calling it dirty, blighted or crime ridden and take that personally. Additionally, a lot of the boule black population doesn’t super rock with Philly like that.
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Old 05-22-2022, 06:12 PM
 
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Ijs I do think. It’s black populations in those cities have an inferiority complex but in different ways.



It only seems that way because we also have a superior complex and we look at the other cities/areas that way. At the same time those same other cities look at us the same way.. it's all the same same going around.
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Old 05-22-2022, 06:16 PM
 
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Native black Philadelphians are some of the staunches Negadelphians (and for good reason). The city with the highest (black) unemployment rate, (black) poverty rate, and homicide rate doesn't have an inferiority complex? Please. Ask any black native what's the best thing to do in Philly and their answer will be "leaving".
I am a Black native.

You act like Black people are keen on staying in the Bronx and never talk about leaving. Half of Clayton County, GA might be relocated New Yorkers.

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"Keep NY out of Philly" If that doesn't scream inferiority complex I don't know what does.
LOL. Find a picture of Black person originally from Philadelphia wearing one of those shirts. 99% of Philadelphians, much less the Black ones, really don't care.
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Old 05-22-2022, 06:17 PM
 
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They take it as a reflection on their city, and thus them- most Philadelphians traditionally harbor and inferiority complexes to NYC directly. Or really dislike people calling it dirty, blighted or crime ridden and take that personally. Additionally, a lot of the boule black population doesn’t super rock with Philly like that.
Wish I could rep this.

The old money bougie class definitely rocks with Philadelphia. It's the middle class millennials that are moving to DC, Atlanta, Charlotte ect;
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Old 05-22-2022, 06:26 PM
 
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I am a Black native.

You act like Black people are keen on staying in the Bronx and never talk about leaving. Half of Clayton County, GA might be relocated New Yorkers.



LOL. Find a picture of Black person originally from Philadelphia wearing one of those shirts. 99% of Philadelphians, much less the Black ones, really don't care.
So you definitely know about the bitter old heads that talk about the city as if it were Baghdad.

It’s definitely a generational thing though. Late Millennials have a superiority complex, they were around when state property was dominating the charts, “jawn” was becoming mainstream, people were rocking Philly beards, and the city had neo soul on lock.
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