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I think the reason Minneapolis stands out more is because it has the largest immigrant populations of unique groups. Its the largest Somalia, Lao, and Liberian populations in the US and has the 2nd largest Ethiopian, Thai, and Kenyan populations. Philly has a lot more immigrants but the communities are much more common (Indian, Chinese, Dominican, etc.).
Also most of the immigrants in the Twin Cities congegrate in the core city's limits which are pretty small. It seems like most other metros have a significant immigrant population in the suburbs.
Also most of the immigrants in the Twin Cities congegrate in the core city's limits which are pretty small. It seems like most other metros have a significant immigrant population in the suburbs.
Lotta northern metros were like that until recnetly. Minnesota is just kinda late on the uptick, that will change within 15 years I bet.
Here is the differences in trends between 2000-2021 broken into 10 year intervals. The differences represent the increase or decrease of immigration from that region from 2000-2010 to 2010-2021. Im not going to bother with those places that got less than 3,000 in a particular category.
From Europe
New York City: 31,408
Los Angeles: 24,981
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 16,694
San Francisco: 11,121
Houston: 10,616
Philadelphia: 9,000
Washington DC: 8,163
Seattle/Tacoma: 6,909
Orlando: 6,048
San Jose: 6,039
Boston: 6,030
Dallas/Fort Worth: 4,945
Sacramento: 1,562
Phoenix: 1,040
Detroit: 333
Minneapolis/St. Paul: -1,291
Las Vegas: -1,373
San Diego: -1,561
Tampa: -3,296
Atlanta: -6,602
Chicago: -21,647
From Asia
New York City: 109,532
Seattle/Tacoma: 87,839
San Jose: 69,454
Houston: 59,756
Dallas/Fort Worth: 59,311
Boston: 54,995
Chicago: 47,657
Los Angeles: 47,493
San Francisco: 46,096
Detroit: 45,160
Atlanta: 40,651
Washington DC: 30,042
Philadelphia: 25,381
San Diego: 24,466
Phoenix: 18,690
Sacramento: 16,326
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 13,100
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 12,006
Tampa: 10,762
Orlando: 4,277
Las Vegas: -362
From the Caribbean
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 68,652
New York City: 66,140
Boston: 33,286
Tampa: 17,858
Orlando: 16,540
Philadelphia: 15,747
Houston: 12,369
Dallas/Fort Worth: 5,325
Las Vegas: 5,016
Washington DC: 2,935
Phoenix: 2,510
Los Angeles: 1,250
Chicago: 1,201
Atlanta: -2,735
From Mexico
Detroit: 2,318
Boston: 2,136
Orlando: 93
Tampa: -3,526
Washington DC: -3,745
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: -3,819
Seattle/Tacoma: -6,207
Philadelphia: -7,498
Minneapolis/St. Paul: -7,739
San Diego: -12,485
Sacramento: -13,279
San Jose: -13,324
Atlanta: -17,493
San Francisco: -20,910
New York City: -30,374
Las Vegas: -31,435
Phoenix: -37,863
Houston: -50,532
Dallas/Fort Worth: -53,751
Chicago: -76,260
Los Angeles: -182,482
From Central America
Houston: 64,898
Dallas/Fort Worth: 38,320
Las Vegas: 32,803
San Francisco: 23,105
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 18,471
Philadelphia: 8,186
New York City: 7,382
Atlanta: 5,169
Washington DC: 4,517
Boston: 4,093
Phoenix: 3,341
San Jose: 2,564
Seattle/Tacoma: 2,390
Orlando: 2,260
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 762
Tampa: -241
Chicago: -695
Sacramento: -722
Los Angeles: -21,335
From South America
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 72,609
Orlando: 31,964
Boston: 20,559
Tampa: 14,730
Houston: 10,696
New York City: 10,557
Chicago: 8,759
Atlanta: 7,769
Philadelphia: 6,989
Dallas/Fort Worth: 6,676
Los Angeles: 5,678
Seattle/Tacoma: 5,401
Washington DC: 4,134
San Francisco: 3,796
San Jose: 2,815
Phoenix: 2,175
San Diego: 470
Minneapolis/St. Paul: -51
Las Vegas: -169
From Other Areas (Africa, Canada, Oceana, etc.)
New York City: 49,133
Houston: 44,887
Dallas/Fort Worth: 34,248
Los Angeles: 24,214
Washington DC: 22,104
Chicago: 13,825
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 12,869
Seattle/Tacoma: 12,639
Philadelphia: 11,412
Boston: 9,728
Phoenix: 8,190
Atlanta: 7,627
San Francisco: 7,311
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 5,862
Sacramento: 4,716
San Jose: 4,451
Detroit: 4,300
San Diego: 3,953
Las Vegas: 814
Tampa: 2,004
Below is some data on permanent residency from 2020. It is important to note that the data below is completely different from everything mentioned so far. The differences are:
1) Because the number below are people who are obtaining permanent residency, these are people that have been in the US for some time. These are not people who are immigrating to the US within recent years. They are usually on visas and waiting for their green cards to be approved.
2) These numbers are indicative of past immigrant trends, not of future trends.
3) Because the numbers are from 2020, they are far lower than past years.
Source is DOT immigration handbook from 2020.
Here they are!
From Africa - all over 1,000 listed
New York City: 7,598
Washington DC: 5,507
Dallas/Fort Worth: 3,487
Houston: 3,092
Atlanta: 2,974
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 2,900
Boston: 2,294
Chicago: 2,047
Philadelphia: 1,978
Seattle/Tacoma: 1,887
Columbus, OH: 1,805
Los Angeles: 1,672
Baltimore: 1,530
Phoenix: 1,364
Indianapolis: 1,202
San Francisco: 1,197
Denver: 1,125
Nashville: 1,001
From Asia - all over 3,000 listed
New York City: 35,377
Los Angeles: 27,308
San Francisco: 15,239
San Jose: 11,696
Washington DC: 10,327
Chicago: 9,820
Houston: 9,567
Seattle/Tacoma: 9,288
Dallas/Fort Worth: 9,219
Detroit: 6,502
Boston: 5,979
Atlanta: 5,877
Sacramento: 5,267
Philadelphia: 5,088
San Diego: 4,022
Riverside/San Bernardino: 3,464
From Europe - all over 1,000 listed
New York City: 11,828
Chicago: 5,151
Los Angeles: 3,992
San Francisco: 3,300
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 3,092
Seattle/Tacoma: 3,086
Boston: 2,278
San Jose: 1,896
Washington DC: 1,659
Houston: 1,558
Philadelphia: 1,477
Sacramento: 1,263
Detroit: 1,192
Portland, OR: 1,099
Dallas/Fort Worth: 1,027
From Mexico - all over 2,000 listed
Los Angeles: 10,399
Chicago: 5,726
Dallas/Fort Worth: 5,696
Houston: 5,101
Riverside/San Bernardino: 3,715
Phoenix: 3,216
San Diego: 3,113
San Francisco: 3,035
New York City: 2,332
McAllen, TX: 2,156
El Paso: 2,045
From Central America and the Caribbean - all over 2,000 listed
New York City: 30,517
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 19,493
Houston: 5,120
Los Angeles: 5,102
Boston: 4,775
Washington DC: 4,751
San Francisco: 2,953
Orlando: 2,402
Atlanta: 2,110
Tampa: 2,107
Philadelphia: 2,072
From South America - all over 1,000 listed
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 12,397
New York City: 11,855
Orlando: 2,836
Houston: 2,338
Boston: 2,114
Los Angeles: 1,871
Washington DC: 1,798
Atlanta: 1,439
Chicago: 1,379
San Francisco: 1,339
Dallas/Fort Worth: 1,145
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DC continues to challenge Los Angeles for #2 on diversity from multiple countries. LA obviously wins out on total numbers, but they essentially are tied or extremely close, metric after metric shown.
DC continues to challenge Los Angeles for #2 on diversity from multiple countries. LA obviously wins out on total numbers, but they essentially are tied or extremely close, metric after metric shown.
I've made the case that DC is the 2nd most ethnically diverse urban/metro in the US after NYC. But then again, LA makes a solid case too just because of the massive numbers of immigrants there.
I think the top 5 most ethnically diverse urban/metro areas in the US are:
1) NYC
2/3) DC/LA
4/5) San Francisco/Houston
My wild card is Miami. Its got the breadth of groups, they just come from only one region of the world. Id place it 6th. The rest of the top 10 get a little murky because they are pretty close on ethnic diversity: Chicago, DFW, and Boston would be 7-9 and Atlanta would be 10th. But one could make a case for San Jose, Seattle, or Sacramento.
I've been looking at demographic trends for over a decade now. I think what has stuck out to me is that Atlanta just wasn't able to keep with DFW in terms of increased numbers of immigrants. 10 years ago, they were almost identical on ethnic diversity but DFW just keeps pulling away.
I've made the case that DC is the 2nd most ethnically diverse urban/metro in the US after NYC. But then again, LA makes a solid case too just because of the massive numbers of immigrants there.
I think the top 5 most ethnically diverse urban/metro areas in the US are:
1) NYC
2/3) DC/LA
4/5) San Francisco/Houston
My wild card is Miami. Its got the breadth of groups, they just come from only one region of the world. Id place it 6th. The rest of the top 10 get a little murky because they are pretty close on ethnic diversity: Chicago, DFW, and Boston would be 7-9 and Atlanta would be 10th. But one could make a case for San Jose, Seattle, or Sacramento.
I've been looking at demographic trends for over a decade now. I think what has stuck out to me is that Atlanta just wasn't able to keep with DFW in terms of increased numbers of immigrants. 10 years ago, they were almost identical on ethnic diversity but DFW just keeps pulling away.
I agree all around.
I would look at the Bay Area as a whole though. At least the inner Bay. But I don't think that would change the ranking.
I would still have the Bay and Houston tied at 4. San Jose strengthens SF in Asian and Latin categories while Houston still keeps up because it is stronger on African depth and seems to be the spot for Caribbean growth outside the Atlantic states. I see Cuba shows up only for Miami, Houston and Tampa.
I agree with the DFW / Atlanta too. They are on very similar trajectories. Their Africa numbers were similar and both were attracting from similar countries in similar numgers (Kenya, Congo) and a similar case for Asians (the 2 for example were the strongest for Korean growth). But DFW is pulling away from Atlanta and is moving closer to Houston.
Also agree that Miami has a ton of countries represented but it's all in the America's.
Seattle is a well rounder too.
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Y'all are talking ethnic diversity and living Miami a top-six but that gets very murky with the New World, especially. Are Americans an ethnicity? Are Canadians an ethnicity? Unlike parts of the Old World, the Americas are not considered to be composed of nation states. Is an Arab from Oman a different ethnicity from an Arab from Yemen? Different nationality, no doubt, but not everyone would agree on their ethnic grouping. Is a Korean from North Korea a different ethnicity than a Korean from South Korea? Even while acknowledging the divergence in the last century, the vast majority of people would say no. So, then, what is ethnicity in the Americas?
Maybe every single country in the New World is composed of its own ethnic group that stops at their borders. But does that make me Ethnically American because I was born here to Korean immigrants? Would my children be ethnically Croat if I moved to Croatia before having children?
I just think using these particular numbers to argue that Miami is ethnically diverse is extremely misleading without discussing what ethnicity is. Miami certainly is diverse and a beautiful melting post but I would not call it one of the six most ethnically diverse metro in the country. I think a closer, but still far from perfect, yard stick would be first languages or languages spoken at home. And for that, my impression from people who lived there is that nearly everyone speaks either English or Spanish at their native or heritage language.
Y'all are talking ethnic diversity and living Miami a top-six but that gets very murky with the New World, especially. Are Americans an ethnicity? Are Canadians an ethnicity? Unlike parts of the Old World, the Americas are not considered to be composed of nation states. Is an Arab from Oman a different ethnicity from an Arab from Yemen? Different nationality, no doubt, but not everyone would agree on their ethnic grouping. Is a Korean from North Korea a different ethnicity than a Korean from South Korea? Even while acknowledging the divergence in the last century, the vast majority of people would say no. So, then, what is ethnicity in the Americas?
Maybe every single country in the New World is composed of its own ethnic group that stops at their borders. But does that make me Ethnically American because I was born here to Korean immigrants? Would my children be ethnically Croat if I moved to Croatia before having children?
I just think using these particular numbers to argue that Miami is ethnically diverse is extremely misleading without discussing what ethnicity is. Miami certainly is diverse and a beautiful melting post but I would not call it one of the six most ethnically diverse metro in the country. I think a closer, but still far from perfect, yard stick would be first languages or languages spoken at home. And for that, my impression from people who lived there is that nearly everyone speaks either English or Spanish at their native or heritage language.
Very fair point. I would argue the cultural divergence between Fulani and Igbo is probably more significant than the cultural divergence between your average Mexican and Argentinian. Just because while both areas have massive divergence in climate and actual genetic mixture, Mexico and Argentina have nationality as a differentiator (and political system does lead to ethnic fractionalization as well as the opposite), Fulani and Igbo have Religion and language as a cultural differentiator. Just because Nigeria is one country, food is fairly similar in some aspects between the North and South, although there’s foods exclusive to both regions. Also historically a substantial amount of Fulani are nomadic herders which means a completely different diet from the city and village bound Igbos even with some food crossovers. Argentina and Mexican food seem fairly different but wouldn’t know how to measure the difference. I do feel like Religion and Language as well as social/societal setup are the most important cultural things and it could be argued that Latin American countries all share those things in common but the climate, historical and political differences can’t be understated too.
To further complicate this an Ethnically Han, English or Somali person has some pretty wild cultural differences from region to region versus someone whose Ethnically Icelandic or Senegalese Wolof. Which also leads to the opposite happening where Austrian German, Swiss German and Germans are increasingly different people under different political systems and Nigerian Yoruba and Benin Yoruba are also increasingly different people as well as Gambian Wolof vs. Senegalese Wolof just because of the use of English vs. French in the nations of Gambia/Nigeria vs. Senegal/Benin making them less culturally similar than previously.
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