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Old 11-16-2022, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I wonder what it is about Las Vegas that seems to be attracting so many black people, especially compared to say Phoenix or Denver.
Ill tell you personally - it has a way less outdoorsy and hispter-ishculture than Denver and is (especcially in the past) a lot more affordable. It also doesn't snow. And you can live a decent middle class life without a college education. It is really for lower middle class black folks.

Phoenix has the Republican slant to it which for me has made it pretty much out of the question and no legal weed. And it's not as black as Vegas. So If I were going to the West my top choice would be Vegas. Seattle is an option but too expensive. I'm good on LA and the Bay. Denver is cool but again- more expensive and colder than Vegas. It beautiful and warm and right up until the pandemic you could buy houses somewhat similar to the price in ATL same sort of McMansion deal. Its a little more expensive now but nothing major to be sure. New builds at decent prices.
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Old 11-17-2022, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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Ill tell you personally - it has a way less outdoorsy and hispter-ishculture than Denver and is (especcially in the past) a lot more affordable. It also doesn't snow. And you can live a decent middle class life without a college education. It is really for lower middle class black folks.

Phoenix has the Republican slant to it which for me has made it pretty much out of the question and no legal weed. And it's not as black as Vegas. So If I were going to the West my top choice would be Vegas. Seattle is an option but too expensive. I'm good on LA and the Bay. Denver is cool but again- more expensive and colder than Vegas. It beautiful and warm and right up until the pandemic you could buy houses somewhat similar to the price in ATL same sort of McMansion deal. Its a little more expensive now but nothing major to be sure. New builds at decent prices.
well I dont think the west gets many Black transplants from points east, especially anywhere east of I35. The main reason why Phx and LV's Black pop is growing is due to expensive costs in California.

Also Phoenix has had legal weed for about a year now. Phoenix has as much of a republican slant as vegas, and those two things shouldnt matter anyways.
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Old 11-17-2022, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Phoenix has as much of a republican slant as vegas, and those two things shouldnt matter anyways.
I don't think so. Maricopa County is significantly redder than Clark County and has been for a long time.

As of 2022 35% of Maricopa is Republican, 30% is Democrat. in Clark County 35% is Democrat, 25% is republican. Maricopa County voted for Donald Trump in 2016- automatically dead to me. They didn't even vote for Obama.

That 100% matters to me, I dont want to live anywhere that isn't reliably consistently blue, I really don't. Arizona and the MLK day denial and the 'show your papers if you look Mexican' thing didn't happen in Vegas. In general Vegas is more diverse.

Idk if it's much- but I do know black people from the east in Vegas and Denver for sure.
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Old 11-17-2022, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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In 2022, Arizona actually leaned a little left of Nevada based on the margins in their respective governor and Senate races. In the last few years the far right has increasingly been getting rejected in Arizona, including the Phoenix metro area. This trend parallels a steady increase in diversity there, with heavy in-migration of younger people from California and elsewhere who don't subscribe to the conservative views that traditionally dominated the area.
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Old 11-17-2022, 12:40 PM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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Perception matters more. Black people generally perceived Vegas as being more cosmopolitan and liberal than Phoenix/Arizona.
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Old 11-17-2022, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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In 2022, Arizona actually leaned a little left of Nevada based on the margins in their respective governor and Senate races. In the last few years the far right has increasingly been getting rejected in Arizona, including the Phoenix metro area. This trend parallels a steady increase in diversity there, with heavy in-migration of younger people from California and elsewhere who don't subscribe to the conservative views that traditionally dominated the area.
I mean compare

Arizona Party Control

Arizona Legislature

to

Nevada Party Control

Nevada Legislature

Much more blue in NV. they outnumber republicans 2-1 in the State Assembly. The Arizona House of Representatives Republicans outnumbers Democrats. Quite different. 2022 is 2022... the states/cities have been around 100+ years.

And what 908 said about perception.
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Old 11-17-2022, 11:42 PM
 
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I wonder which areas lower income Whites from California are flocking to? Looking at the recent data, nearby Las Vegas is actually declining in White population, so they're not heading there in greater numbers compared to black people for example
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Old 11-18-2022, 07:40 AM
 
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I wonder which areas lower income Whites from California are flocking to? Looking at the recent data, nearby Las Vegas is actually declining in White population, so they're not heading there in greater numbers compared to black people for example
Dallas and Nashville
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Old 11-18-2022, 09:28 AM
 
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Dallas and Nashville
Phoenix more so than those two.
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Old 12-06-2022, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I wonder what it is about Las Vegas that seems to be attracting so many black people, especially compared to say Phoenix or Denver.
It's become an "outlet" for Southern California. Las Vegas has lots of apartments that rent at reasonable rates, plus as others have mentioned, it's still possible to live a middle class life there without a college education. One can work in the hospitality, culinary and entertainment-related industries and do well if they are determined to. Las Vegas, in many ways, is sort of a "second chance" for lower-income people who were pushed out of California.

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I wonder which areas lower income Whites from California are flocking to? Looking at the recent data, nearby Las Vegas is actually declining in White population, so they're not heading there in greater numbers compared to black people for example
All over Arizona. Maricopa County and Pinal County, for awhile. A lot of the lower-class whites move to Kingman, Bullhead City, Fort Mohave. Prescott gets a lot of lower-income older, conservative whites.
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