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Old 12-31-2022, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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I agree that the cities in Hudson County feels more urban but it doesn’t function as a city in the way that similar sized areas do. It’s an agglomeration of small, dense areas/cities separated by bodies of water and marsh areas. It’s an odd area to me and doesn’t compare well to actual cities.
This is not true at all.... lol.
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Old 12-31-2022, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I agree that the cities in Hudson County feels more urban but it doesn’t function as a city in the way that similar sized areas do. It’s an agglomeration of small, dense areas/cities separated by bodies of water and marsh areas. It’s an odd area to me and doesn’t compare well to actual cities.
Boston minus West Roxbury and with Chelsea and Everett is definitely the closest comp out there
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Old 12-31-2022, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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This is not true at all.... lol.
It’s is for people living outside the extreme northeast.
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Old 12-31-2022, 04:36 PM
 
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I agree that the cities in Hudson County feels more urban but it doesn’t function as a city in the way that similar sized areas do. It’s an agglomeration of small, dense areas/cities separated by bodies of water and marsh areas. It’s an odd area to me and doesn’t compare well to actual cities.
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This is not true at all.... lol.
Well its tricky because the bolded part is an objective fact. The next part (third sentance) starts with an opinion. The first sentance starts with an opinion(how it feels to him) that most people already agree with.

Whether or not Hudson county functions like single cities its size and whether or not it's comparable to them is the part that seems most open to debate so I'd be interested to hear the reasoning for that
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Old 12-31-2022, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Southern California suburb
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I agree that the cities in Hudson County feels more urban but it doesn’t function as a city in the way that similar sized areas do. It’s an agglomeration of small, dense areas/cities separated by bodies of water and marsh areas. It’s an odd area to me and doesn’t compare well to actual cities.

City political lines shouldn't really matter in comparisons like this in reality though. That's like comparing north Orange County (Anaheim & Santa Ana) to say Denver or a city as such. We could wake up tommorow and Hudson County decides they want to group all municipalities into one entity. We could re-word this and say that Hudson Co area is more urban than Seattle.
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Old 12-31-2022, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Southern California suburb
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It’s is for people living outside the extreme northeast.

No you meant people living in City-Data, not people outside in the world that don't care about the urban technical data.
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Old 12-31-2022, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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I agree that the cities in Hudson County feels more urban but it doesn’t function as a city in the way that similar sized areas do. It’s an agglomeration of small, dense areas/cities separated by bodies of water and marsh areas. It’s an odd area to me and doesn’t compare well to actual cities.
Only Kearny and Secaucus are really divided by water and marsh. There are definitely "divisors" in the County (the Palisades cuts off Union City from Hoboken, Hoboken Rail Yards cuts it off from Jersey City, I-495 cuts the County in two), but that's really no different than Seattle (Duwamish Waterway, Lake Union, I-5)
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Old 12-31-2022, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I agree that the cities in Hudson County feels more urban but it doesn’t function as a city in the way that similar sized areas do. It’s an agglomeration of small, dense areas/cities separated by bodies of water and marsh areas. It’s an odd area to me and doesn’t compare well to actual cities.
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This is not true at all.... lol.

https://www.google.com/search?q=huds...&client=safari
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Old 12-31-2022, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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It’s is for people living outside the extreme northeast.
NJ is not the extreme northeast. Many consider it to be mid-Atlantic.
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Old 12-31-2022, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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City political lines shouldn't really matter in comparisons like this in reality though. That's like comparing north Orange County (Anaheim & Santa Ana) to say Denver or a city as such. We could wake up tommorow and Hudson County decides they want to group all municipalities into one entity. We could re-word this and say that Hudson Co area is more urban than Seattle.
I agree that political divisions are somewhat arbitrary but this is literally a comparison of political divisions. If the areas were grouped geographically then Kearny would probably be in Essex.
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