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I think the Southeast and South might've already passed the Midwest, if not atleast equal. Imo I don't think it'll be able to compete with the West Coast though. The West is the only region that owns the Pacific front, while Florida and the SE has to share the Atlantic with the NE.
It's a good comparison to the Midwest forsure. The Midwest has been generally declining, I mean they call it the "rust belt" for a reason, plus being the coldest region.
The Midwest has been declining but it's certainly not dead. There was so much to decline from that even with all of the loss it is still a force.
With all of the decline I still love Detroit, St Louis and Cleveland. All 3 packed with culture and personality.
Cincinnati, Milwaukee and honorary Midwesterner Louisville to me could have been really great cities if given just a little more time to boom.
Indianapolis and Columbus are still growing and show that that the Midwest is still here.
Then there's a plethora of smaller cities that pack a punch. Dayton, Akron, Grand Rapids, Grand Rapids, Toledo...
Then there's Chicago. The Grand Dame of the Midwest. The South has no Grand Damn. All other regions are good in all weight classes (even with decline), except the south. I think the south would have a better argument if there was a primate city, but it doesn't.
The south is middle heavy. But it doesn't have a champion fighter. It has 4 or 5 almost champions but almost doesn't count.
I am a southerner through and through. I love our cities, I love where they are going. But I do give the Midwest it's props for resilience in the face of difficulties.
The Midwest has been declining but it's certainly not dead. There was so much to decline from that even with all of the loss it is still a force.
With all of the decline I still love Detroit, St Louis and Cleveland. All 3 packed with culture and personality.
Cincinnati, Milwaukee and honorary Midwesterner Louisville to me could have been really great cities if given just a little more time to boom.
Indianapolis and Columbus are still growing and show that that the Midwest is still here.
Then there's a plethora of smaller cities that pack a punch. Dayton, Akron, Grand Rapids, Grand Rapids, Toledo...
Then there's Chicago. The Grand Dame of the Midwest. The South has no Grand Damn. All other regions are good in all weight classes (even with decline), except the south. I think the south would have a better argument if there was a primate city, but it doesn't.
The south is middle heavy. But it doesn't have a champion fighter. It has 4 or 5 almost champions but almost doesn't count.
I am a southerner through and through. I love our cities, I love where they are going. But I do give the Midwest it's props for resilience in the face of difficulties.
The primate city of the American South is Atlanta.
The Midwest has been declining but it's certainly not dead. There was so much to decline from that even with all of the loss it is still a force.
With all of the decline I still love Detroit, St Louis and Cleveland. All 3 packed with culture and personality.
Cincinnati, Milwaukee and honorary Midwesterner Louisville to me could have been really great cities if given just a little more time to boom.
Indianapolis and Columbus are still growing and show that that the Midwest is still here.
Then there's a plethora of smaller cities that pack a punch. Dayton, Akron, Grand Rapids, Grand Rapids, Toledo...
Then there's Chicago. The Grand Dame of the Midwest. The South has no Grand Damn. All other regions are good in all weight classes (even with decline), except the south. I think the south would have a better argument if there was a primate city, but it doesn't.
The south is middle heavy. But it doesn't have a champion fighter. It has 4 or 5 almost champions but almost doesn't count.
I am a southerner through and through. I love our cities, I love where they are going. But I do give the Midwest it's props for resilience in the face of difficulties.
Well, if we're being technical, according to bea.gov, the Southeast has been the largest region for GDP for some years now. Whether that translates to 'importance' depends on what we're talking about.
Regional GDP, Q3 2022
Southeast-----------$5.565T
Far West-------------$5.050T
Mideast--------------$4.481T
Great Lakes--------$3.361T
Southwest----------$3.234T
Plains---------------$1.597T
New England-------$1.321T
Rocky Mountains-----$964B
New England-CT ME, MA, MH, RI, VT
Mideast-DE, DC, MD, NJ, NY, PA
Great Lakes-IL, IN, MI, OH, WI
Plains-IA, KS, MN, MO, NE, ND, SD
Southeast-AL, AR, FL, GA, KY, LA, MS, NC, SC, TN, VA, WV
Southwest-AZ,NM,OK, TX
Rocky Mountains-CO, ID, MT. UT, WY
Far West-AK, CA, HI, NV, OR, WA
Atlanta is great but it isn't top in any category. Not near a one. It's highest rank is 3. Houston is top 2 in every category. DFW is top 3 in every category and top in 2. Even Miami tops the UA category.
ATL is competitive for #3 in the south, it most definitely isn't the primate city in the south.
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You failed to mention Minneapolis St Paul.
I never fail hunny, I left out everything west of STL intentionally. There's at least a half dozen small cities west of STL I could have mentioned but I purposely didn't want to go to far west.
How long before Charlotte and Nashville became legit major metros, will this be enough to help Miami-Atlanta-Tampa stretch compete with NY through DC?
To bring it back to the actual topic of the OP.
How long before Charlotte and Nashville will it be to help Miami-Atlanta-Tampa stretch compete with NY through DC.
NYC Metro by itself is adding much more than the 2 cities combined.
DC Metro is adding nearly the same amount as Charlotte & Nashville combined.
Boston metro is adding more than Nashville. Then add on the growth of Philadelphia and Baltimore’s metropolitan areas.
Right now, if anything they’re falling further behind NY (& DC & for Nashville Boston) in population, so. If it’s up to them, they need to do a whole lot more. Let’s see when they surpass Baltimores metro population. Which for Charlotte, it’s getting close but Nashville will be decades probably before it surpasses Baltimores.
Baltimore has ~800,000 people more than Nashville (metropolitan areas). If the raw population #’s of the areas continue, it could be like 40 years before Nashville would catch Baltimore?
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