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I dont see Las Vegas on the list. I'm always seeing McClarens and Ferraris along that stretch of I-15 near Vegas. A lot of those driving are not owners though and there are several places in the Vegas area where you can rent a supercar for the day. At one company you get to take the car out on the road course at Las Vegas Motorspeedway.
I dont see Las Vegas on the list. I'm always seeing McClarens and Ferraris along that stretch of I-15 near Vegas. A lot of those driving are not owners though and there are several places in the Vegas area where you can rent a supercar for the day. At one company you get to take the car out on the road course at Las Vegas Motorspeedway.
I agree LV should be on the list. But in my personal experience, I don't see supercars in Vegas as frequently as I do in Miami.
One theory I have is that fewer tourists rent cars in Vegas, though I have no data to back that up. I've never seen a real reason to ever rent a car in Vegas since nearly 100% of the entertainment is inside of hotels. But clearly people do rent cars there all the time.
Miami is one of the most scenic cities to drive in America and nothing in Vegas can compare to driving across the Macarthur Causeway with the top down. It is a sublime experience. Only the Pacific Coast Highway really compares, imo.
Miami is one of the most scenic cities to drive in America and nothing in Vegas can compare to driving across the Macarthur Causeway with the top down. It is a sublime experience. Only the Pacific Coast Highway really compares, imo.
I don’t think I’ve ever made it across without getting stuck in gridlock. Haha
You make a good point though! The bridge to Key Biscayne is really nice too.
Just took a look at 500K+ earners in a few select metros and places.
Bay Area - 72,770
DC Metro - 48,272
Manhattan - 43,429
Greater Boston - 31,631
Westchester (NY) - 17,371
Fairfield (CT) - 13,727
Nassau (NY) - 12,576
Miami - 12,434
Atlanta - 10,113
Philly - 7,172
Dallas - 4,155
The Bay Area has a lot more than that...at least according to the IRS
IRS Total Tax Returns Reporting Income $500,000+, 2020
Bay Area CSA Congressional Districts:
41,510---CA-18 Anna Eshoo(D) SF Peninsula
23,840---CA-17 Ro Khanna(D) Fremont-Sunnyvale
21,020---CA-12 Nancy Pelosi(D) San Francisco
19,130---CA-14 Jackie Speier(D) SF Peninsula
13,550---CA-15 Eric Swalwell(D) East Bay
13,270---CA-11 Mark DeSaulnier(D) East Bay
11,950---CA-2 Jared Huffman(D) North Bay
10,400---CA-19 Zoe Lofgren(D) San Jose
9,750----CA 13 Barbara Lee(D) Oakland
3,850----CA-5 Mike Thompson(D) North Bay
1,780----CA 9 Jerry McNerney(D) Stockton
1,640----CA 10 Josh Harder(D) Modesto
710------CA 16 Jim Costa(D) Merced 147,180--Bay Area Congressional Districts
LA CSA Congressional Districts:
25,900--CA 33 Ted Lieu(D) Malibu-Westside LA-Coast-PV Peninsula
11,690--CA 48 Michelle Steel(R) Coastal OC
10,430--CA 45 Katie Porter(D) Irvine-SE OC
9,510---CA 30 Brad Sherman(D) Calabasas-Studio City
7,740---CA 28 Adam Schiff San Fernando Valley-Hollywood
7,100---CA 37 Karen Bass(D) SW LA County
6,120---CA 27 Judy Chu(D) San Gabriel Valley
5,230---CA 26 Julia Brownley(D) Ventura County
4,610---CA 39 Young Kim(R) Northern OC
2,420---CA 25 Mike Garcia(R) Northern LA Co-Eastern Ventura
2,250---CA 47 Alan Lowenthal(D) Long Beach
2,140---CA 36 Raul Ruiz(D) Eastern Riverside
1,900---CA 42 Ken Calvert(R) SW Riverside
1,740---CA 43 Maxine Waters(D) South LA
1,620---CA 31 Peter Aguilar(D) Inland Empire
1,600---CA 34 Jimmy Gomez(D) Downtown LA and Environs
1,010---CA 32 Grace Napolitano(D) Eastern San Gabriel Valley
950-----CA 38 Linda Sanchez(D) SE LA County
630-----CA 47 Lou Correa(D) Anaheim-Santa Ana
750-----CA 41 Mark Takano(D) Western Riverside
510-----CA 29 Tony Cardena(D) Van Nuys-San Fernando
410-----CA 35 Norma Torres(D) Eastern LA County-SW San Bernadino
330-----CA 40 Lucille Roybal-Allard(D) Eastern LA County
290-----CA 44 Nanette Barragan(D) South LA 107,630--Los Angeles CSA Congressional Districts
For Comparison: IRS Total Tax Returns Reporting Income $500,000+, 2020 147,180--Bay Area Congressional Districts
145,190---State of Texas
144,090---State of New York
132,980---State of Florida 107,630--Los Angeles CSA Congressional Districts
79,000----State of New Jersey
71,440----State of Illinois
68,880----State of Massachusetts
64,250----State of Washington
47,200----State of Georgia
47,160----State of Virginia
35,330----State of Connecticut
34,180----State of Maryland
8,040-----District of Columbia
The Bay Area has a lot more than that...at least according to the IRS
IRS Total Tax Returns Reporting Income $500,000+, 2020
Bay Area CSA Congressional Districts:
41,510---CA-18 Anna Eshoo(D) SF Peninsula
23,840---CA-17 Ro Khanna(D) Fremont-Sunnyvale
21,020---CA-12 Nancy Pelosi(D) San Francisco
19,130---CA-14 Jackie Speier(D) SF Peninsula
13,550---CA-15 Eric Swalwell(D) East Bay
13,270---CA-11 Mark DeSaulnier(D) East Bay
11,950---CA-2 Jared Huffman(D) North Bay
10,400---CA-19 Zoe Lofgren(D) San Jose
9,750----CA 13 Barbara Lee(D) Oakland
3,850----CA-5 Mike Thompson(D) North Bay
1,780----CA 9 Jerry McNerney(D) Stockton
1,640----CA 10 Josh Harder(D) Modesto
710------CA 16 Jim Costa(D) Merced 147,180--Bay Area Congressional Districts
LA CSA Congressional Districts:
25,900--CA 33 Ted Lieu(D) Malibu-Westside LA-Coast-PV Peninsula
11,690--CA 48 Michelle Steel(R) Coastal OC
10,430--CA 45 Katie Porter(D) Irvine-SE OC
9,510---CA 30 Brad Sherman(D) Calabasas-Studio City
7,740---CA 28 Adam Schiff San Fernando Valley-Hollywood
7,100---CA 37 Karen Bass(D) SW LA County
6,120---CA 27 Judy Chu(D) San Gabriel Valley
5,230---CA 26 Julia Brownley(D) Ventura County
4,610---CA 39 Young Kim(R) Northern OC
2,420---CA 25 Mike Garcia(R) Northern LA Co-Eastern Ventura
2,250---CA 47 Alan Lowenthal(D) Long Beach
2,140---CA 36 Raul Ruiz(D) Eastern Riverside
1,900---CA 42 Ken Calvert(R) SW Riverside
1,740---CA 43 Maxine Waters(D) South LA
1,620---CA 31 Peter Aguilar(D) Inland Empire
1,600---CA 34 Jimmy Gomez(D) Downtown LA and Environs
1,010---CA 32 Grace Napolitano(D) Eastern San Gabriel Valley
950-----CA 38 Linda Sanchez(D) SE LA County
630-----CA 47 Lou Correa(D) Anaheim-Santa Ana
750-----CA 41 Mark Takano(D) Western Riverside
510-----CA 29 Tony Cardena(D) Van Nuys-San Fernando
410-----CA 35 Norma Torres(D) Eastern LA County-SW San Bernadino
330-----CA 40 Lucille Roybal-Allard(D) Eastern LA County
290-----CA 44 Nanette Barragan(D) South LA 107,630--Los Angeles CSA Congressional Districts
For Comparison: IRS Total Tax Returns Reporting Income $500,000+, 2020 147,180--Bay Area Congressional Districts
145,190---State of Texas
144,090---State of New York
132,980---State of Florida 107,630--Los Angeles CSA Congressional Districts
79,000----State of New Jersey
71,440----State of Illinois
68,880----State of Massachusetts
64,250----State of Washington
47,200----State of Georgia
47,160----State of Virginia
35,330----State of Connecticut
34,180----State of Maryland
8,040-----District of Columbia
This is all well and good but remember Miami has a lot of Russian and Brazilian oligarchs who aren’t counted and Atlanta has a lot of entertainers who do not pay taxes as well
Shocked to see SF has more than all of Texas combined? Can’t be right
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This is all well and good but remember Miami has a lot of Russian and Brazilian oligarchs who aren’t counted and Atlanta has a lot of entertainers who do not pay taxes as well
Shocked to see SF has more than all of Texas combined? Can’t be right
And it takes a PhD in Quantum Physics from Stanford to deduce that well off people from DC, SF, etc might spend their money on things others than exotic cars—the topic of this thread— just like someone on this forum might think only bus boys, tourists and those coming over on rafts are driving Hondas made to look like exotic cars, all income is reported and all wealth only comes from reported W-2 income (especially by rich people who also pay more taxes than they need to), and SoFla and Atlanta only have impoverished residents.
Did I miss anything?…sure hope Jeff Bezos considered that before deciding to move to El Salvador North since he and Turo rental agency are the only ones in the metro and entire Southeast who can afford exotic cars..Lol
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And it takes a PhD in Quantum Physics from Stanford to deduce that well off people from DC, SF, etc might spend their money on things others than exotic cars—the topic of this thread— just like someone on this forum might think only bus boys, tourists and those coming over on rafts are driving Hondas made to look like exotic cars, all income is reported and all wealth only comes from reported W-2 income (especially by rich people who also pay more taxes than they need to), and SoFla and Atlanta only have impoverished residents.
Did I miss anything?…sure hope Jeff Bezos considered that before deciding to move to El Salvador North since he and Turo rental agency are the only ones in the metro and entire Southeast who can afford exotic cars..Lol
You can buy a much nicer house for 500m in Miami compared to Seattle or SF that’s for sure. Miami and Atlanta is the land of opportunity.
Don’t need to be rich to rent lambos apparently.
Also, no way that there are tax cheats outside of Miami.
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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You can buy a much nicer house for 500m in Miami compared to Seattle or SF that’s for sure. Miami and Atlanta is the land of opportunity. Don’t need to be rich to rent lambos apparently.
One can buy a house for that amount, might not be in a neighborhood or condition you or I would want to live in. That wasn’t always the case. Both cities have their nice parts and bad parts. I’m far less familiar with Atlanta but $500K isn’t getting you anything close to a nice house in Coastal Miami; not even going to get you a very nice 1BR condo, talking desirable coastal (beach and bay) communities (and not necessarily beachfront) either.
Agree, don’t need THAT much to rent an exotic car (friend of mine rented out his Aston Martin for $400/day through Turo) and cities such as Miami and Vegas do attract tourists who get off on that but don’t sell short the number of people (regardless where their wealth comes from, legally or otherwise, and how it is or is not measured/reported) who live here and own them (and don’t still live on mamas couch, though this may be applicable to some). Many who own an exotic often have more than one.
Quite a few also spend money on annoying, noise pollution custom exhaust systems—be they for Hondas or Toyotas as well as Lambos and other exotics.
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There are a lot of reasons reported income might not be a good metric...
Let's settle this, Lamborghini reported 1,625 sales in the first half of 2023. The two top markets were California and Florida taking 25% and 19% of total sales respectively. On a per capita basis this works out to 1 Lamborghini per every 96,591 people in Californina versus 1 Lamborghini per every 70,543 in Florida.
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